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I don't really care. I'm only going to go to one gig on a tour probably unless I really, really like the band and have money to burn. Mixing it up is good so you might get a surprise or two, but as long as the band has lots of good material then you should be okay.
I do find it annoying that a band would allow a stupid light show to dictate which songs they'd play on tour though.
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With Muse's constant setlists, it is annoying to fans who, for whatever reason see them more than once on a tour. However, most of the crowd are only there for that one show, so it shouldn't matter if it's the same. Why should it matter if it's the same, the majority of the crowd are only seeing them once anyway?
While that may be true, even if you've seen them only once on each tour it still gets old pretty quick. They've been playing Plug in Baby since 2001 at EVERY gig and TIRO since 2003 at EVERY gig. I didn't bother going to see them on their Resistance tour because it was nothing i hadn't seen many times before (apart from TR songs but i don't like them anyway) so why bother? Their setlists have been the same for years. If they had mixed it up then i definitely would have got tickets in the chance of hearing a few songs i hadn't heard before or at least not in a long time.
I'm not going to fork out £50 to see them play SMBH, Starlight, Knights, PiB, TIRO, Hysteria, etc, again and again because it bores me stupid. The only way i'll go and see Muse again is if they really start mixing their sets up and not just by a couple of songs at each gig. As Pib says - it's ridiculous they let their setlists be dictated by fucking lights. They've been doing the lights thing for ages now. Time to let it go.
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As much as my interest in Pearl Jam has waned over the years they are the epitomy of how a band should approach live shows and the music industry as a whole.
They play nigh on 30 songs a night and each night is vastly different from the last. That's value for fucking money, they also make all of their shows available as a professionally recorded bootleg. There is no excuse for laziness, lights or no lights.
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Nogli :
With Muse's constant setlists, it is annoying to fans who, for whatever reason see them more than once on a tour. However, most of the crowd are only there for that one show, so it shouldn't matter if it's the
same. Why should it matter if it's the same, the majority of the crowd are only seeing them once anyway?
While that may be true, even if you've seen them only once on each tour it still gets old pretty quick. They've been playing Plug in Baby since 2001 at EVERY gig and TIRO since 2003 at EVERY gig. I didn't bother going to see them on their Resistance tour because it was nothing i hadn't seen many times before (apart from TR songs but i don't like them anyway) so why bother? Their setlists have been the same for years. If they had mixed it up then i definitely would have got tickets in the chance of hearing a few songs i hadn't heard before or at least not in a long time.
I'm not going to fork out £50 to see them play SMBH, Starlight, Knights, PiB, TIRO, Hysteria, etc, again and again because it bores me stupid. The only way i'll go and see Muse again is if they really start mixing their sets up and not just by a couple of songs at each gig. As Pib says - it's ridiculous they let their setlists be dictated by fucking lights. They've been doing the lights thing for ages now. Time to let it go.
For £50 quid it had better be a damn belter of a show.. maybe if their performances were not so restricted by all the tight scheduling of lights/effects and to a certain degree the effects on guitars then perhaps the setlists could be more improvised and room for just jamming or doing a random covers every now and again could creep in. Perhaps they need to make things a bit more simpler, ditch the complication and they can be set free to be the three piece we all know and love.
Im not saying go totally back to basics from 1999/2000 but around 2003 the performances were dazzling yet beautfully simple.
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For £50 quid it had better be a damn belter of a show.. maybe if their performances were not so restricted by all the tight scheduling of lights/effects and to a certain degree the effects on guitars then perhaps the setlists could be more improvised and room for just jamming or doing a random covers every now and again could creep in. Perhaps they need to make things a bit more simpler, ditch the complication and they can be set free to be the three piece we all know and love.
Im not saying go totally back to basics from 1999/2000 but around 2003 the performances were dazzling yet beautfully simple.
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Mix it up, but have two or three songs that are always first and a few that are last.
In the case of Muse, KoC would almost always be the closer, SS would be in the encore or late in the show, and a few other examples, but otherwise, sometimes play Hoodoo, sometimes Darkshines, sometimes Sling/Feed/Backdoor/Jigsaw Memory, sometimes USoE, and so on.
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Just to point out that Paul McCartney has performed 16 times in 2012, and has played almost 70 different songs. He has a full light show aswell, so there is no excuses for lazy setlists.
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It's not as simple as saying mix up the setlists = good and don't mix up = bad. The statistic of them playing 36 songs over 166 shows (may have that wrong) may seem bad, but compare them to Rammstein - they have played something like 25 different songs over the course of their LIFAD and Made in Germany tours. The only times the setlist changes is if there are certain "special" songs to a certain venue. Fruhling in Paris for Paris and Moskau for Moscow.
I went to see 2 shows on the recent tour, same as I did for the last Muse tour (not counting Wembley). I was far more bored by the second Muse show than I was with the second Rammstein show (which had an identical setlist).
I think if the setlist was the best that it could be, then it wouldn't be so bad if it doesn't change. If they played the Wembley 11th setlist each show, I could get used to that.
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It's always better when they throw in a few surprises, would be boring if they didn't.
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.... but compare them to Rammstein - they have played something like 25 different songs over the course of their LIFAD and Made in Germany tours. The only times the setlist changes is if there are certain "special" songs to a certain venue. Fruhling in Paris for Paris and Moskau for Moscow.
So what song can we expect in Prague
2006:29.11
2009:28.10+29.10+17.11+20.11
2010:10.09
2012:20.09+18.10+26.10+27.10+12.11+19.11+15.12+17.12+18.12
2013:18.02+12.04+15.04+16.04+25.05+26.05+15.06+22.06+28.06+29.06+06.07+14.07
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Just to point out that Paul McCartney has performed 16 times in 2012, and has played almost 70 different songs. He has a full light show aswell, so there is no excuses for lazy setlists.
That's true, but Muse have a distinct thing going on on the screens or stage for a some of their songs ie. the funny word changing thing during Ruled By Secrecy, or the balloon dancers during Blackout and Exogenesis. So it is limiting, but not limiting enough not to play different songs. Paul McCartney has a pretty light show, but nothing as constricting as that.
The only band that can get away with it I think is Rammstein. The show and the stage itself (ie backdrops change to reveal sections of the stage made for the next track) has to be so choreographed, but it doesn't matter.
I'm genuinely surprised by how unanimous this poll has been. I suppose it's more to do with the fact that this forum is focused on one band, and everyone follows the setlists and may go to more than one show per tour (for whatever reason, no band has ever made me want to do that).
(I could put something really funny and intelligent here, but that would just be showing off.)
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Don't all fans of all bands want 'their' gig to be unique?
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Mix it up, definitely. I like not knowing which songs a band is going to play, it sucks when you know you're not going to hear your favourite song before the gig has even started.
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Most of the best gigs have been with scrambled setlists, as you tend to get a nice surprise. Especially because if a band has got enough songs to significantly mix up sets, then there's bound to be people who want to see different songs.
There's always going to be a core set of maybe 8-12 songs, but mixing the rest in a 16-20 song set isn't asking too much.
The only band I've seen in my top 5 who didn't make a few changes were The Stone Roses.
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Sheffield Arena - 04.11.09
Old Trafford L.C.C.C. - 4.9.10
Leeds Festival - 26.8.11
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