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Report this post | 06 May 2011 01:25 GMT | #2188017 |   | Split
Voted earlier. Not that it'd matter anyways, my constituency is a Sinn Finn cert (idiocy) and my vote was more or less in vain.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 05:19 GMT | #2188033 |   | Split
I so wish i could vote. Looks like the yes campaign could do with a couple more 'yes' votes. Also, the SNP are making massive gains in Scotland so far, which i'm quite pleased about. My seat went SNP so i don't feel too bad about missing out on voting.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 08:14 GMT | #2188058 |   | Split
I am absolutely loving the arse kicking that the Lib Dems are taking. Some estimates have got it at the biggest backlash against the party in thirty years.

It was to be expected though. If you sell out what you stand for and do the opposite for a seat at the head table then the people are going to turn against you.



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Report this post | 06 May 2011 08:44 GMT | #2188067 |   | Split
Aye, while it's amusing, the Lib Dems are still taking far too much of the damage. It looks like the Tories aren't going to come out of this looking that bad, and given the poor impression Ed Miliband has made on the general public so far - it doesn't look like much is going to hamper ze Tories at all.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 09:12 GMT | #2188073 |   | Split
BBC news reported this morning that the Lib Dems lost many constituencies including their home turf of Sheffield. Labour picked up a few of them as did the Tories.

Labour made gains and the Tories remained in front.

The Welsh assembly was handed back to Labour, while many areas of southern England turned blue.

People in Scotland however seem to have taken a step back to the dark ages and voted the SNP and retardicus Salmond in as the main party.

Now we wait and see about AV.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 09:24 GMT | #2188080 |   | Split
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People in Scotland however seem to have taken a step back to the dark ages and voted the SNP and retardicus Salmond in as the main party.



Why is voting in the SNP such a bad thing?


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 10:10 GMT | #2188081 |   | Split
Do you know what they stand for?... A lie, that's what they stand for.

Salmond does a convincing job, strutting around the halls of the Scottish parliament building talking down accusations of Anglophobia with that smarmy voice of his. But the truth is, without the union (which is what the SNP want, Scotland to leave the United Kingdom) Scotland would be up shit creek without a paddle.

It has been too long, the link economically and socially between Scotland and the rest of the U.K for it to just leave.

It currently enjoys a great level of government spending (higher than any other part of the UK) and low taxes that simply couldn't be sustained by a shrinking population of only 5 million if Scotland were to go it alone - Salmond seems to think government spending would go up and taxes would remain low if Scotland were to leave... he is delusional.

His biggest counter to that, is the old "Its Scotlands Oil" slogan from the 70's.. which unfortunately for him has been proven as codswallop a million times. Not to mention North Sea Oil has been in decline for a long time now.

And what exactly would Scotland do for currency? The Scottish pound would be made redundant and worthless and Scotland couldn't join the Euro as its levels of government and public debt are way way too high, and with such a small population, it simply couldn't work its way out of it.. it would have to raise taxes to astronomical levels simply to cover its expenses and that would probably cause even more Scottish people to relocate to England.

Not to mention it would lose all voice in the E.U and just end up being overshadowed by the bigger players like Ireland witnessed when it joined... hopped out of the frying pan and into the fire.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 10:43 GMT | #2188101 |   | Split
But the thing is, a lot of people vote for the SNP based on their policies, not because they want independence. I know a lot of people who voted SNP but would vote no in a referendum. I'm undecided on how i would vote. Politically, i'd love to see us independent from the rest of the UK because at the last general election only one seat in the whole of Scotland went Tory and i think it's unfair that we have to be goverened by a Tory government when it's against what the vast majority of the country want.

Economically, i really don't know where i stand. I don't think i know enough about it to make a decision yet. I do know that we get more spent on us per head that those in England and i don't know if we'd be able to sustain our spending if we became independent. You're right, he does seem to rely on oil a lot, which isn't going to be around forever and even just now they're building rigs in Korea and elsewhere in the world which are to be used in the North Sea so that's jobs and money taken away from Scotland. I would have to do more research into the economic side of things to be honest.

Policy-wise, they've done a lot of positive things for us over the last 4 years. They have kept student tuition free and also abolished the graduation endowment fee; something that saved me 2,500 pounds, they've started to phase out prescription charges and now only cost 3pounds and they've done really good things with the NHS and are completely against making any cuts. That's all i can think of off the top of my head. I wasn't able to vote due to being abroad so to be honest i haven't done a lot of research into all of it but i have to say that i'm pleased that they've made so many gains this time.

They're a left-of-centre party and they make a good alternative to the Lib Dems who many have lost trust in and Labour, who really aren't all that left-wing anymore. I can appreciate that as an English tory you'd find it ridiculous that anyone would vote but there you go!


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 11:12 GMT | #2188113 |   | Split
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I'm undecided on how i would vote. Politically, i'd love to see us independent from the rest of the UK because at the last general election only one seat in the whole of Scotland went Tory and i think it's unfair that we have to be goverened by a Tory government when it's against what the vast majority of the country want.



Hardly exclusive to Scotland. The rest of the UK has been run for the last 14 years by Scottish Prime Ministers who have (like Tony Blair) been overtly generous to Scotland and not given a shit about the rest of us. Its simply a case of deal with it.


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Economically, i really don't know where i stand. I don't think i know enough about it to make a decision yet. I do know that we get more spent on us per head that those in England and i don't know if we'd be able to sustain our spending if we became independent.




You wouldn't.


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Policy-wise, they've done a lot of positive things for us over the last 4 years. They have kept student tuition free and also abolished the graduation endowment fee; something that saved me 2,500 pounds, they've started to phase out prescription charges and now only cost 3pounds and they've done really good things with the NHS and are completely against making any cuts.




How do you think they are able to do those things? ... I'll tell you, grants, from Westminster. England N.I or Wales doesn't get that sort of treatment and Westminster is here...


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They're a left-of-centre party and they make a good alternative to the Lib Dems who many have lost trust in and Labour, who really aren't all that left-wing anymore. I can appreciate that as an English tory you'd find it ridiculous that anyone would vote but there you go!




It might interest you to know, that not that long ago Scotland was Tory HQ.. more adamant than any other part of the UK for Conservative governance. Only since John Major has Scotland become left leaning.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 10:59 GMT | #2188114 |   | Split
What's going on in Scotland should be no concern of ours. We should be focusing on how fucked up our own country is.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 11:11 GMT | #2188121 |   | Split
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What's going on in Scotland should be no concern of ours. We should be focusing on how fucked up our own country is.




Economically and politically we are one, so what happens in one effects the other, to think otherwise is naive.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 14:13 GMT | #2188180 |   | Split
You should be hoping we vote for independence when the referendum comes, Barnaby. Because if it does England will most likely be subject to a lifetime of Tory rule, which should make you incredibly happy. Actually, the more i think about it independence does seem like quite a good idea.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 14:19 GMT | #2188186 |   | Split
The English should be happy that Scotland is part of the UK. We're the only ones stopping non-stop Tory rule in Westminster :P

I don't want independence anyway. I just don't think it's a smart move.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 14:26 GMT | #2188195 |   | Split
Really hope the coalition collapses on the back of these elections. Lib Dems have already taken the bullet for the Tory's cuts so I feel Labour would win the General. Lesser of the two evils by far.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 16:22 GMT | #2188288 |   | Split
I'm annoyed they are doing the results in a constituency style system like in a general election, surely for a fair representation of the whole country you should just count all the yes votes and all the no votes of the whole country and then find out which has the most.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 16:52 GMT | #2188298 |   | Split
My god AV yes vote is taking a hammering so far .

Hooray for the NO supporters' unethical campaign of misinformation, truly noble stuff.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 16:38 GMT | #2188300 |   | Split
Well if the current course continues, I hope someone takes legal action over the No campaign. Made up cost values and scaremongering.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 16:50 GMT | #2188308 |   | Split
I don't know what's worse, the fact that the No campaign was such a dirty, untruthful campaign... or the fact that people have bought it.

Embarrassing results so far. Not embarrassing for the Yes people. Embarrassing for the people of this country.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 17:04 GMT | #2188315 |   | Split
The No campaign was pretty dire. THE COUNTRY WILL BE RUN BY MONSTER RAVING LOONY PARTY MEMBERS AND THE BNP WITH AV AND WE'LL BE BANKRUPT WITHIN 5 DAYS.

The result is just


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 17:07 GMT | #2188321 |   | Split
Fuck this.

P.S. They're not called the Monster Raving Loony Party anymore


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 17:16 GMT | #2188327 |   | Split
Yeah they are.

They're your best hope as far as I can tell.

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Report this post | 06 May 2011 17:38 GMT | #2188337 |   | Split
'Yes to AV' is taking a smashing so far.

LOL, Glasgow, the only yes constituency north of London..... James.


You got some nerve, coming here.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 17:47 GMT | #2188342 |   | Split
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Voted.




I know what you put



I have a feeling you could be right......

Looks like the Libs got an arse kicking...
Shame


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 17:51 GMT | #2188348 |   | Split
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Yeah they are.



I stand corrected.

I totally agree with Gilly on the constituency thing. It's frustrating that it's taken so long for this issue to actually be put to the polls, and now we're going to throw it away.


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Report this post | 06 May 2011 18:24 GMT | #2188361 |   | Split
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'Yes to AV' is taking a smashing so far.

LOL, Glasgow, the only yes constituency north of London..... James.



Glasgow Kelvin... full of students and post-grads. No surprise they voted yes.

Anyway, I hope the No folk are happy. You've successfully kept the country in the fucking stone age.





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