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what mod found my thread name unsatisfactory? guess its more official now

well sorta on topic/ weird news story.... but some people are still such idiots comparing obama to hitler. really what is the comparison?

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO126794/



"well they were both good at speaking"
and convincing people and stuff

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Did you see the "T.E.A." march thing from 9/13 in washington???
the people are so dumb lol

i avoided opening this thread just for fear that i would get to into it,
but yea man some people are so ignorant it is just so fucking irritating.
yea, he is spending a lot of money but hey he is spending it to try to HELP us rather than DESTROY other countries. well, on help rather than on weapons.


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what mod found my thread name unsatisfactory? guess its more official now

well sorta on topic/ weird news story.... but some people are still such idiots comparing obama to hitler. really what is the comparison?

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO126794/



I asked James to change the name to that for that very reason lol


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what makes you think you can just reappear and start messing with my thread


now democrats represent a lot more wealthy people, it was usually republican.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-10-13-House-wealth-gap-Democrats-richest-districts_N.htm


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Report this post | 15 Oct 2009 21:29 GMT | #1736529 |   | Split
'Fox News at War with White House'

That's a Fox News headline, I must stress
So Beck is now saying that the White House has majorly screwed up focusing on them instead of the war in Iraq...even though for the last 5 months the whole Fox News channel has been saying that the White House has been Nazi-like ignoring people with other opinions and clamping down on Freedom of Speech....another stroke of logic from Glenn Beck here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_Xtis39DxI


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Report this post | 22 Oct 2009 22:08 GMT | #1742692 |   | Split
oh dear, the power of the moderator. removing a thread that uses the words Obama and Hitler in the same sentence.

Well i for one can see the comparisons all too clearly. there are lots of documentaries out there people. he aint the saviour you think he is!!!!

one example is his appallingly sick visit to new orleans. are you seriously telling me that there is not enough money to put every family that are STILL living in shacks and makeshift timber homes into propper accomodation? He laughed it off, and he didnt even visit the regions still at their worst. that would not have been very photogenic would it, all those miserable faces behind the great obama?

Ultimately he is, after all, no matter how well groomed, just another presidential puppet. i am so glad to see more and more people waking up to the new world order daily. I believe obama is the ultimate perfect timing puppet. and how many of his promises has he already broken? face it people, he says what he says when he is told to say it, and so on and so on. he is no more one of the people than george bush snr or jnr.

wake up people! oh and then theres the obama administration. over 75% of them are connected to the Bilderberg group directly. if you dont know who and what the bilderbergs are then i give up.


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oh dear, the power of the moderator. removing a thread that uses the words Obama and Hitler in the same sentence.


Hitler wasn't in the name of the thread

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Ultimately he is, after all, no matter how well groomed, just another presidential puppet. i am so glad to see more and more people waking up to the new world order daily. I believe obama is the ultimate perfect timing puppet. and how many of his promises has he already broken? face it people, he says what he says when he is told to say it, and so on and so on. he is no more one of the people than george bush snr or jnr.


For someone who is so well groomed in the American Legislative process i would expect you to know that it takes a long time for legislation to get passed. According to this he has only broken 7 of his promises, i believe this answers you question.


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Report this post | 24 Oct 2009 15:46 GMT | #1743978 |   | Split
Unfortunately 'no action' constitutes a broken promise, in my view anyway.

Maybe we will see more of his promises kept in the next few years, but at the moment there is nothing to suggest he's even taking the time to fulfil the majority of the promises he made.

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no-name - question for you - do you follow any of the current 'conspiracy' theories about US Martial Law, fema internment, swine flu vaccine depopulation etc?


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Report this post | 27 Oct 2009 00:40 GMT | #1746495 |   | Split
^^ how much have you lived in the united states or spent time there?

Martial Law - still not getting your point, i know what it is, enacted by the president. Martial law without any bad event or major violence doesn't happen.

Fema Interment - All those executive orders listed on the top website for fema interment are created during the war for nuclear attack, if the entire country got fucked and half of it exploded. The government already has enough people who would stop anyone who tried to have a massive takeover, without any bad thing happening, then so much opposition would halt it in tracks. Unless you assume we would nuke ourselves.

Swine Flu Depopulation - Fucking natural selection. we are not invincible. Epidemics happen all the time, throughout time. So maybe some companies try to make some money on vaccinations. That's to be expected. Its how they make money and make a living. America is capitalist, if it hurts you then your left in the dust. Sucks, but that's the way it is. About twenty people i know have gotten swine flu and are perfectly fine. its the regular dam flu, just a different form.

idk why i wasted my time with that.


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no-name - question for you - do you follow any of the current 'conspiracy' theories about US Martial Law, fema internment, swine flu vaccine depopulation etc?



Each to an extent, yes.

I don't know what you mean about Martial Law, but I think it links closely to FEMA and the Swine Flu 'Epidemic'.

I really don't know about this whole issue, it's a difficult one. I'm of the opinion that either Swine Flu is a hell of a lot worse than is being made out - and the media/government are actually playing down the situation by pretending it's bad, but not that bad. This is where the FEMA Camps and potential Martial Law come in - this Epidemic could get so bad that, as cheesy as it may sound, the army/national guard/FEMA could get involved. On a street level. As in, pulling people out of their homes and putting them into FEMA Camps - and the declaration of Martial Law. This is a distinct possibility but maybe not for the Swine Flu situation, as the actual effects of the disease seem to be less severe than first thought. I also refuse to believe that the governments of the world would commit mass genocide in an attempt to solve the overcrowding problem. People can do some fucked up stuff, but I don't think killing billions comes under 'fucked up' - it's a whole new level. (sorry for the wall of text)

OR (I find this a lot more likely) - it's really just another way to keep us all scared. Like the terrorism thing, like bird flu and the economic collapse (to an extent) - it could just be another plan to keep us all in check.

But I try not to call myself a conspiracy theorist. I despise that word nowadays, since everyone associates it with some nerd in his parents' basement with a tin foil hat and David Icke books lined along the bookshelf. I try to research things like this myself, and come to a conclusion that way - rather than do what a lot of people do and just believe the first blog or 'documentary' they see.


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Report this post | 27 Oct 2009 21:59 GMT | #1747809 |   | Split
no name - brilliant to hear. Yeah i am the same, i spend a lot of time researching from all arears pro's and con's for and againsts,u know. Although Icke speaks a lot of truth, and Jones also can give the believable impression of his integrity etc, i learnt a long time ago not to take anything as literal or gospel. i have amassed a lot of research material particularly in connection with the swine flu vaccines, and all i can repeat to anyone i know is that yes the mainstream media knowingly or unknowingly are causing a storm of fear, they NEVER report on the bad side of the effects of this vaccination is causing worldwide...its seriously scary stuff. you can also download the original ingredients and compositions of the vaccines, from each company. and searching these individual elements makes it a definite no no to taking any vaccination from now on. I know friends of mine who have refused to let their children have any kind of vaccination at all, both now 10 and 13, and the healthiest happiest kids i have ever met both intelligent, and strong kids. I love making contact with other people who are waking up, and it is happening more and more everywhere. thank god. i also believe in the 2012 golden age of enlightenment which coming from my fingers to this page makes me smile, as i have never been religious in any way, but there could be something brilliant about to happen to our conciousness which also ties into chemtrails, codex alimentarius, gm foods, vaccines etc.....god, who knows? anyway i have followed your posts for a bit, and its nice to talk! peace and love, man


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wake up people! oh and then theres the obama administration. over 75% of them are connected to the Bilderberg group directly. if you dont know who and what the bilderbergs are then i give up.



I doubt the Bilderberg Group has anything to do with U.S. Politics. It's just more conspiracy talk, thrown around to create fear. I don't really like the current situation in the White House, but I'm not going to throw reason to the wind and declare the Obama Administration to be part of the Bilderburgs/New World Order/Silly Mayan Prophecy.

So that's my two cents.


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wake up people! oh and then theres the obama administration. over 75% of them are connected to the Bilderberg group directly. if you dont know who and what the bilderbergs are then i give up.



I doubt the Bilderberg Group has anything to do with U.S. Politics. It's just more conspiracy talk, thrown around to create fear. I don't really like the current situation in the White House, but I'm not going to throw reason to the wind and declare the Obama Administration to be part of the Bilderburgs/New World Order/Silly Mayan Prophecy.

So that's my two cents.



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Report this post | 08 Nov 2009 06:00 GMT | #1762864 |   | Split
Well Nancy Pelosi just barely got the Healthcare bill passed in the house, now we have to wait for the Senate , lets hope they can get a bill out or lets see if the republicans kill it.


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Report this post | 11 Nov 2009 22:33 GMT | #1768237 |   | Split
I don't think Republicans are the problem. It's the "blue dog" democrats that have to worry about getting re-elected. Them and Joe Lieberman.


The US promptly lost its shit and declared war on the very notion of terrorism, entering into an armed conflict against an abstract concept like only America can.

And after we beat Terrorism, were gonna beat Drugs! Then were going to take on Sadness!

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Report this post | 22 Nov 2009 03:17 GMT | #1783401 |   | Split
How are we giving Sarah Palin any credit? why are people buying her book? she's a idiot! she quit her governor job because she "couldn't handle the stress." The presidents job is the most stressful job in the world, and she expects to try for that office?

i fear George Bush type republican getting elected. idiot.


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I thought this was pretty funny :P



I've come across quite a few of these Healthcare cartoons, most of which point out how ridiculous it is that there are people trying to block this reform.


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Report this post | 07 Dec 2009 21:53 GMT | #1803428 |   | Split
update.

Afghanistan war plans a surge of 30,000 troops for 18 months, because it worked in Iraq, but iraq is a bit of a different country/war. Obama is being criticized for being a hypocrite, because he opposed the iraq surge, but it worked, so he's taking the idea. Like a one million cost per soldier.

US soldiers will be exiting Iraq by 2011. at least some some good news.

i wish we had never gotten into either of these wars back when they both started, but now I'm just concerned how we can get out without having wasted our time, money, and American lives there.


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update.

Afghanistan war plans a surge of 30,000 troops for 18 months, because it worked in Iraq, but iraq is a bit of a different country/war. Obama is being criticized for being a hypocrite, because he opposed the iraq surge, but it worked, so he's taking the idea. Like a one million cost per soldier.

US soldiers will be exiting Iraq by 2011. at least some some good news.

i wish we had never gotten into either of these wars back when they both started, but now I'm just concerned how we can get out without having wasted our time, money, and American lives there.



A justified concern. The War's are seemingly fairly unwinnable at the moment, and I feel that as soon as the forces are withdrawn, normality will resume in these countries. It's a massive rock, and a very hard place, and they're stuck right between them.


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With this latest Yemen/Pakistan thing, the Middle East is looking increasingly like Indochina for the 2000's.

The only difference is, 'terrorists' are the 'targets' instead of communists.

Add those 170 to the tally, Mr Obama, you'll have caught up to Dubya in no time.


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update.

Afghanistan war plans a surge of 30,000 troops for 18 months, because it worked in Iraq, but iraq is a bit of a different country/war. Obama is being criticized for being a hypocrite, because he opposed the iraq surge, but it worked, so he's taking the idea. Like a one million cost per soldier.

US soldiers will be exiting Iraq by 2011. at least some some good news.

i wish we had never gotten into either of these wars back when they both started, but now I'm just concerned how we can get out without having wasted our time, money, and American lives there.



A justified concern. The War's are seemingly fairly unwinnable at the moment, and I feel that as soon as the forces are withdrawn, normality will resume in these countries. It's a massive rock, and a very hard place, and they're stuck right between them.



By normalcy, I guess you mean genocide, the persecution of women, dissolving of basic human rights, and theocratic fascism. The Afghanistan war is made so difficult due to the country's brutal terrain. The Obama Administration's attempt at diplomacy with the Pakistanis is pointless. We should be concentrated on a strong allegiance with India, our greatest potential friend in the region. Exiting in Iraq would lead to a brutal 3 way civil war (sunni/shia/kurd), which would throw the region into even greater turmoil. I'm not sure how all this could be avoided, but a quick exit would have devastating consequences.


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By normalcy, I guess you mean genocide, the persecution of women, dissolving of basic human rights, and theocratic fascism. The Afghanistan war is made so difficult due to the country's brutal terrain. The Obama Administration's attempt at diplomacy with the Pakistanis is pointless. We should be concentrated on a strong allegiance with India, our greatest potential friend in the region. Exiting in Iraq would lead to a brutal 3 way civil war (sunni/shia/kurd), which would throw the region into even greater turmoil. I'm not sure how all this could be avoided, but a quick exit would have devastating consequences.



The terrain isn't what's making it difficult, it's deliberate under-funding and deliberately sending too few troops that is losing the war.

Evidently the diplomacy with Pakistan is not pointless, as Obama has sanctioned the continuation of precision missile and airstrikes on 'terrorist' targets in north-west Pakistan whic, if legitimate in the sense of prior approval and genuine targets, is a good thing. Unless Obama has went without approval from the Pakistani government - which wouldn't surprise me as he has done the same in Yemen, killing 170+ civilians in a horribly Cambodia-like attack - in which case he is spreading the war on terror to wherever he pleases.

While I wouldn't pull our troops out immediately, I would seek to set up a legitimate election and framework for government, then pull out gradually over the next 12-18 months. At least then, if it all goes to shit again after we've left, we can say we've done all we can, at least in the governmental area. Right now, no matter when we leave and if there is no shift in policy, we've effectively contributed to creating another corrupt regime in Afghanistan.


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By normalcy, I guess you mean genocide, the persecution of women, dissolving of basic human rights, and theocratic fascism. The Afghanistan war is made so difficult due to the country's brutal terrain. The Obama Administration's attempt at diplomacy with the Pakistanis is pointless. We should be concentrated on a strong allegiance with India, our greatest potential friend in the region. Exiting in Iraq would lead to a brutal 3 way civil war (sunni/shia/kurd), which would throw the region into even greater turmoil. I'm not sure how all this could be avoided, but a quick exit would have devastating consequences.



The terrain isn't what's making it difficult, it's deliberate under-funding and deliberately sending too few troops that is losing the war.

Evidently the diplomacy with Pakistan is not pointless, as Obama has sanctioned the continuation of precision missile and airstrikes on 'terrorist' targets in north-west Pakistan whic, if legitimate in the sense of prior approval and genuine targets, is a good thing. Unless Obama has went without approval from the Pakistani government - which wouldn't surprise me as he has done the same in Yemen, killing 170+ civilians in a horribly Cambodia-like attack - in which case he is spreading the war on terror to wherever he pleases.

While I wouldn't pull our troops out immediately, I would seek to set up a legitimate election and framework for government, then pull out gradually over the next 12-18 months. At least then, if it all goes to shit again after we've left, we can say we've done all we can, at least in the governmental area. Right now, no matter when we leave and if there is no shift in policy, we've effectively contributed to creating another corrupt regime in Afghanistan.



While troop levels have been low in Afghanistan for the most part of the war, they have doubled in the past months. The terrain does indeed play a role in the Afghanistan war. Invading armies with much more troops have failed in Afghanistan. The eastern part of the country is very rugged, and Al-Qaeda's knowledge of the geography allowed Osama to escape from the mountains of Tora Bora into Pakistan.

The reason Afghanistan is in such a horrible state is due to the way it was left after the Soviet invasion. By leaving, we allowed islamic extremist thugs (who we armed) to assume control of the country, and fund terror through heroine production. With all of the corruption in Hamid Karzai's Administration, I wouldn't be surprised if similar events repeated themselves.

My frustration with Pakistan stems from the fact that the US gives them billions of dollars in order to fight terrorism, and in turn they are using that to beef up missile systems and military support targeting India. I fear that we are losing the support of India, who should be our greatest ally in the region. Pakistani officials have aided and abetted terrorist plots including the hotel attacks in Mumbai. The US should stand firm with India, who as a republic, represents a model for a civil multi-cultural society in the region. Pakistan must prove to the world that they are sincere in not tolerating or sponsoring terrorism.


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While troop levels have been low in Afghanistan for the most part of the war, they have doubled in the past months. The terrain does indeed play a role in the Afghanistan war. Invading armies with much more troops have failed in Afghanistan. The eastern part of the country is very rugged, and Al-Qaeda's knowledge of the geography allowed Osama to escape from the mountains of Tora Bora into Pakistan.


Yes, they've increased significantly recently, but that doesn't undo all the grave errors that were made before. Personally, I don't think victory in Afghanistan was - and is - an option for the US government, and so for the UK either. I just don't believe them. Our military and political strength is such that we could have won this war within a year, in my opinion. I just don't believe that our operations in the first 5 or 6 years of this occupation were all that we could've done to contribute to creating a legitimate government and a safe country for the Afghans to live in. No, this was was created to: 1. Expand America's influence. They could not gain diplomatic ground in the Middle East, just as they couldn't in Indochina in the 60's and 70's, so they resorted to military action. 2. To gain a foothold in the Middle East, a starting point for the invasion of Iraq, and potentially Iran if that situation escalates, which I believe it will. And 3. To create multi-billion dollar defence contracts for companies like Halliburton. We all know war is the biggest money-spinner for corporate America, this is why we're still there.

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The reason Afghanistan is in such a horrible state is due to the way it was left after the Soviet invasion. By leaving, we allowed islamic extremist thugs (who we armed) to assume control of the country, and fund terror through heroine production. With all of the corruption in Hamid Karzai's Administration, I wouldn't be surprised if similar events repeated themselves.


I can't claim to know much about the Soviets' occupation of Afghanistan, so I can't really comment on the state they left it in. I will point out, however, that since the US's invasion of Afghanistan, opium and heroin production have increased, by a considerable amount. In fact, the Taliban's ban on opium production, in 2000, was extremely effective - there was around an 80-90% reduction in opium production that year, prior to the Western invasion. After the invasion, the numbers increased sharply and the opium trade was soon back to normal.

Also, not only do the Taliban fund themselves and their operations through opium, it's been revealed that the United States actually PAYS the Taliban NOT to attack them. So, we'll give them $10,000 to let us use a road of theirs without attacking, then that $10,000 will be used to plant some IED's, or buy some RPGs to shoot at our trucks on another road. Where's the sense in that?

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My frustration with Pakistan stems from the fact that the US gives them billions of dollars in order to fight terrorism, and in turn they are using that to beef up missile systems and military support targeting India. I fear that we are losing the support of India, who should be our greatest ally in the region. Pakistani officials have aided and abetted terrorist plots including the hotel attacks in Mumbai. The US should stand firm with India, who as a republic, represents a model for a civil multi-cultural society in the region. Pakistan must prove to the world that they are sincere in not tolerating or sponsoring terrorism.



You seem to be neglecting the fact that India is also, diplomatically at least, hostile to Pakistan. Do I need to bring up Kashmir?

There is also no evidence - that I've come across - that the government of Pakistan was behind the Mumbai attacks. The terrorists trained themselves on Pakistani soil, yes, but this does not mean the government were behind it. I think the Pakistani army and police forces are a little busy trying to combat the Taliban and numerous other militant groups who have been pushed over the border by US/UK operations in Afghanistan.


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I completely agree about how the war wasn't executed well to start off. The war seemed to me as a knee jerk reaction to 9/11, and no feasible long term plan was constructed.

Opium trade is about 1/3 of Afghanistan's GDP. Most all of it is used for heroine, but it could be farmed legitimately for painkiller medication. I feel like this is a huge potential benefit for Afghanistan, being one of the poorest nations in the world. Opium is obviously valuable and it is only grown in a few countries worldwide. Afghani farmers should be able to profit off selling it to medical companies as opposed to the Taliban having a monopoly on a black market trade.

The terrorist cell who committed the attacks in Mumbai have past been linked with the Pakistani intelligence agency. While they may have not directly aided in this particular attack, I find it hard to believe that they were not aware of such a large scheme.

The main problem which is at the root of all of these conflicts involves religion. These Islamic groups want to spread fear, violence, and force their beliefs on others. The Israel/Palestinian Conflict, the Iraq War, the rivalry between India & Pakistan, and tensions in Iran are all seeded in religious turmoil. The fact is some people are so convinced that they are right (as far as the question of god) that they will commit mass murder. Even own factions of Islam, Sunni & Shia, are at war with one another. The fact that people are killed due to the drawing of a cartoon or de-converting from a faith is ridiculous. These types of people can not be tolerated if we want to live in some sort of peace.

...then again, we might not want to get off on that tangent.


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