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Report this post | 26 Nov 2008 00:21 GMT | #1387742 |   | Split
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Report this post | 26 Nov 2008 08:02 GMT | #1387850 |   | Split
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Also, what guitar do you have?

Hope that helps.


Thank you sir, thought i would get an answer in a week

I have ibanez rg370dx for standart and washburn bt-2 for others, so nothing fancy here.

Do you mean i should get something like MARSHALL MG30DFX, or is it the same poop in a different packet? And if i decide to go with dist/OD pedal, what should i get? DD-3 and DD-7 seems to cost around the same in finland, so i guess i go for DD-7.


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Report this post | 26 Nov 2008 12:50 GMT | #1387972 |   | Split
That should do you, don't worry, those guitars aren't that bad.

Good phrase though, and yeah I'm afraid it's true. The solid-state Marshall MG series are, well, shite.

Not sure if you're aware of the difference between "solid-state" and "valve/tube" but there are two sets of amplifiers mainly (with hybrids being halfway in between).

Solid states rely on transistors to work and provide okay sounds, but usually sound quite cold compared to valve. Most practise amps are solid-state, since it's cheaper. Some aren't bad though. The Line 6 Flextone series is probably the best known ones which aren't bad.

Valve/tube amps are the real deal though. They use vacuum tubes instead of transistors, and sound much much warmer. And more musical, to most people's ears. Better really, require a bit more carefulness but are worth it.

Also - solid state watts are normally larger in comparison to what it would be in valve terms, e.g.

solid state amp at 50 watts = valve amp at 15 watts (I hear).
solid state amp at 100 watts = valve amp at 30 watts (I hear)

This is because of how the two different mediums amplify sound.

I probably haven't explained it too well, but here you go:

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/amptypes.htm

The main thing is that valve amps are much better musically, but are heavier, cost more, and are more fragile. Worth it in my opinion though.


For you I'd say have a look on some websites. Thomann seem to do a lot of well-priced deals. I can give you some recommendations if you like.


On the pedal front, I'd personally say wait until you can get a valve amp - it'll take distortion/OD pedals much better and you may not even need a distortion pedal if the amp has a nice drive channel! If you want one though, go with either the Boss DS-1 or the OD-3 - both moderately cheap and are quite no-frills. Go for the delay though - you'll more than likely love it.

I cannot stress this enough though, most of the tone from a player comes from three things - their fingers (their phrasing and playing style), their pickups (although not so much, you can get away with average pickups) and their amplifier (your playing is then made to either sound shite or shine through the quality of your amp).

I'd recomend you save up for a good 5-15 watt valve amp, which should keep you going for a good while


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Report this post | 26 Nov 2008 13:54 GMT | #1388007 |   | Split
Cheers again

i've been searching from thomann.de and get/order what i need from a local shop. Any recommendations are welcome, since i've no idea what is good or what i'm doing. 350€/300£ is what i can pay for amp atm.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/fender_super_champ_xd.htm
how about that? and i've seen some highlighting of roland cubes here in forums, what are your thoughts about them?


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Report this post | 26 Nov 2008 15:48 GMT | #1388213 |   | Split
Haha, no worries!

Roland Cubes are, alas, solid-state - however, they're very top of the range ones in comparison to others that you could get e.g. Marshall MG, Fender solid-state, Line 6 Spiders etc. Good amps I hear, won't obviously be as genuine as a valve amp but is a good substitute.

Let me have a look on Thomann That Super Champ looks promising but there are better for that price I think.

- Orange AD5 - very simplistic but has got rave reviews, tone-wise.
- Laney LC-15(R) - I had one of these - fantastic amps, about 10 euros higher than your total but well worth it. Try and get the LC-15R, it has reverb too.
- Harley Benton GA15 - like the Orange AD-5 but even more simplistic - won't be as good but is a lot cheaper, and I've heard some surprising positive reviews (it's Thomann's own brand).
- Blackheart Little Giant BH5-112 - highly recommended, I've heard great reviews about these.
- Blackheart Handsome Devil BH15-112 - 15 watt version of the above one, same really. highly recommended, with a bit more wattage.
- Laney VC-15 110 - if you can push for this, get one of these. I have one at the moment, and it's a fantastic amp. Loud, has beautiful cleans and surprising brutal distortion.

My guitar is a Fender Telecaster but I've had an Ibanez type guitar before, and all the above amps -should- suit you. Depends what type of sounds you want. Let me know what type of sounds you are aiming for, clean & distorted wise.


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Report this post | 26 Nov 2008 16:13 GMT | #1388248 |   | Split
The man speaks sense ^

Tis' rare these days, I tell thee


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Report this post | 26 Nov 2008 17:12 GMT | #1388355 |   | Split
Thanks James.

The only reason I give advice as detailed as such is that when I was at Stiiv's stage, I asked advice and no-one would give any good stuff, only vague snippets. That led to bad purchases and wastes of money. But now I'm happy with my (quite basic array of) gear, and feel wiser now a bit more, at least.


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Report this post | 26 Nov 2008 20:13 GMT | #1388569 |   | Split
well Muse - SMBH @ Reading 06 is what i'm aiming for, but basically i like really aggressive sound = a lot treble and gain.

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But now I'm happy with my (quite basic array of) gear

And that is?


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Report this post | 27 Nov 2008 17:02 GMT | #1388607 |   | Split
Ah ha. Go for the Blackheart, the Orange or the Laney if I were you.

The LC-15 would be perfect actually as it is modern-voiced and is a nice starter-valve amp. VC-15 is a bit more expensive, but has two channels, reverb (only the LC-15R has reverb) and is more vintage voiced - meaning better cleans and more "classic-rock" sounding distortion. Check out youtube for clips.

Although...I would recommend either the Blackheart (either the 5 or 15 watt versions) or the Orange, and then get a Boss OD-3 to provide you with some really gain-y, treble-y distortion. Might get another OD-3 myself (used to have one, great pedal).

Ask me anymore questions if you want.

My gear is:

- Fender Standard Made in Mexico Telecaster (in Midnight Wine)
- Laney VC-15 110
- Casio Privia PX-310 88-key Digital Piano
- Roland SH-101 Analog Synthesizer.

That's it. No pedals at the moment. Will probably invest in a Behringer VD-400 Analog Delay around Christmas time.


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I want to know what things I need to buy, and which ones to buy considering I'm on a low budget. Any help would be greatly appreciated


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i have an orange amp rockerverb 50 and am going to get a 4X12 orange cab this x-mas. should i get an angled one or a straight?


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Report this post | 18 Dec 2008 19:37 GMT | #1410571 |   | Split
Does anyone know where I can get a replacement Boss power supply? I have 2 boss pedals and only one power supply.


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Report this post | 01 Jan 2009 20:36 GMT | #1425060 |   | Split
you can literally get em from like maplins for about 5 quid. i dont know how boss manage to charge 25 pounds for a power supply - its unbelievable. its just a standard 9v power supply.

anyway...can anyone give me any info on whether a zvex woolly mammoth works with active bass? some say it does and some say it doesnt and im considering getting one and need to know! lol


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Report this post | 01 Jan 2009 20:52 GMT | #1425101 |   | Split
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Does anyone know where I can get a replacement Boss power supply? I have 2 boss pedals and only one power supply.



yea never use boss power supplys, so expensive

You can get a Sound Lab one which powers 6 pedals for about £35-40, i have 2


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Does anyone know where I can get a replacement Boss power supply? I have 2 boss pedals and only one power supply.



yea never use boss power supplys, so expensive

You can get a Sound Lab one which powers 6 pedals for about £35-40, i have 2



i can get one of them off the internet for about £30...are they any good? some people say they cause a hissing sound...

can you link me to the one you have? thanks in advance radiohead friend


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Report this post | 02 Jan 2009 17:24 GMT | #1426098 |   | Split
Alright guys, I figure it's about time I got all my stuff in order, so I've got a whole bunch of things to hassle you with

Firstly: Those Sound Labs power supplies - are they any good? I've had one before, and it caused an almighty racket. Like the guy above said, a major hissing noise. It was crap, but I don't know if that was a bad one?
If not, can anyone recommed any other power supplies? (Also, anyone know the cheapest place to get an EHX power supply, for my Big Muff?)

Secondly: What order would be best to put my pedals in? I'm not all that knowledgable on this sort of stuff, so at the moment, I've just got them in the order that's most convenient to hook up, but I'd rather sort them for the best possible sound.
At the moment I've got:
Behringer Wah pedal
Digitech Whammy IV
EHX Big Muff Pi
Boss DD-3 Digital Delay
Digitech Turbo Flange
Behringer AM-100 Acoustic Modeler (which also hisses a lot)
Daphon E20DS Distortion

Thirdly: A few small problems - as I said above, the acoustic modeler hisses a lot. I don't know why. Sometimes it can be really bad, and come out quite fuzzy and static-y. I tend not to use it much anymore, for that reason. Anyone have any ideas why it might be? I like the sound it gives when it's working fine, it's a useful pedal.
Also, the Turbo Flange only seems to work off a mains power supply, batteries are useless with it. I don't understand why. Anyone have any experience with this, or similar? Saying that. of I get a decent power supply, this isn't really an issue.

So, sorry to be a pain, but I know you lot are usually good for this sort of thing


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Report this post | 02 Jan 2009 18:52 GMT | #1426186 |   | Split
For the secondly part, check out this article.

Based on that I would go:

Guitar ->
1) Behringer Acoustic Modeler
2) Behringer Wah
3 or 4) Daphon E20DS
3 or 4) Big Muff Pi
5) Digitech Turbo Flange
6) Boss DD-3
-> Amp

...with the wildcard being the whammy. Realistically, that could probably go first in the chain OR anywhere in the top couple, as long as it's before your distortion/fuzz.


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For the secondly part, check out this article.

Based on that I would go:

Guitar ->
1) Behringer Acoustic Modeler
2) Behringer Wah
3 or 4) Daphon E20DS
3 or 4) Big Muff Pi
5) Digitech Turbo Flange
6) Boss DD-3
-> Amp

...with the wildcard being the whammy. Realistically, that could probably go first in the chain OR anywhere in the top couple, as long as it's before your distortion/fuzz.



Cool, thanks. I'll give it a go.


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Estimate despatch date Tue 03-Feb-2009

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FUCK RIGHT OFF.

I hate getting bullshat. I need to wait a fucking month for one thing and two weeks for the other. What a pile of bat sick.


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yeah, that sucks james!

ps whats ur halo gamertag? lol



Tell me about it man, I sent them an email. Safe to say I was unhappy.

It's JamesT67. I'm totally addicted to CoD at the moment though, and Left 4 Dead


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Report this post | 05 Jan 2009 19:24 GMT | #1429788 |   | Split
oh...i only really do halo 3 and tw09.

back on topic lol...SOUNDLAB power supply!??!


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