microcuts.net is facing a threat from Warner and could be closed down!

this doesn't mean that MuseLive will suffer a similar fate will it!?


From Microcuts:
Legal actions
31.03.2007 - 22:00 UTC+0 // Source : Microcuts.net
We received earlier today a legal document demanding the removal (within 7 days) of all copyrighted pictures, all our videos, video clips, mp3s etcetera... In short, that means we can keep our news and our forum which basically leave the website useless. Warner music have recently been filing lawsuits to protect their copyrights and trademarks and as you may already know they started to tackle youtube myspace and a few other large sites...

We will try to rich out Tom K. and the band to see if they are aware of the situation, in any case we will have to take a decision this week... but regarding the situation we probably won't have any choice but to close microcuts.net.

Here is a copy of the document we received:

xxxx xxxxxxxxxxx,
It has been brought to the attention of Warner Music Inc. that the website microcuts.net - microcuts.org - microcuts.info with the IP addresses of 213.186.33.18 is conducting unauthorised activities which infringes certain copyrights and trademarks that are owned by Warner Music Inc.

Warner Music Inc. currently owns the trademark related to the term “Muse”. On the 3rd February 2007 this trademark was extended to include a number of additional classes. One of these is a Class 42 which protects the use of the term in relation to Internet Domain Names. To protect the integrity of the Muse brand we will now be actively pursuing legal actions to ensure that the use of these domain names are relinquished. Other Muse related terms also covered under this act are [...] “Micro Cuts”, “Muscle Museum” [...]

Warner Music Inc. also owns the international copyright to the following, but not limited to, Muse related forms of content: digital media; lyrics; tablature; visual likeness. These copyrights are being deliberately flouted on a large scale and are damaging the integrity of the intellectual property that we own and have invested in. Warner Music enforces its intellectual property rights very aggressively by using every legal option available.

In order to promote a cooperative and beneficial relationship with fans, Warner Music prefers to send out written requests such as this first, rather than institute litigation or request that your ISP disable your website.

We therefore, without limiting any right, remedy or defence available to us, must ask that you comply with the following requests:

1. Relinquish the use of the Internet Domain Name microcuts.net, .org, .info

2. Remove any digital media (such as mp3 files, video files, streamed or downloadable) from your server that are copyrighted works of Muse. This includes all live material, studio material, and non-musical material (such as interviews)

3. Remove any instances where the lyrics of Muse are reproduced without the express written permission of Warner Music.

4) Remove any interpretations of the music of Muse provided in the form of tablature, song scores or “MIDI” files.

5) Remove all photographic material of the members of the band Muse that have been published without the express written permission of Warner Music.

We ask that you advise us within a period of seven (7) days of the date of receiving this notice on whether you intend to comply with our request so that we can determine whether legal action will be required beyond this point.

Thank you for your cooperation on this matter. Please contact us with any further questions at xxxx@xxxx.com

Regards,

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Warner Music xxxxxxxx,
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xxx-xxxxx-xxxx
xxx-xxxx-xxxx

i hope microcuts wont be closed down, its a great site. as for Warner.. we'll have to see. *doesnt wanna talk about it*

It's technically April 1st.. anybody else wonder if this is not as it seems??

Hmmm...

I hope it's not real/true. It's a good site.

Oh fuck these big music companys. They are fucking cunts. They are really getting on my nerves. What next, the fans cant use the term "Muse"? So if not Muselive.com, it'll have to be CensoredWarnerMusicianslive.com...

Edit: Lol! What a great 1000th post!

it's not good i hope it's not true

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/SaveMuseFanSites/index.html

Everyone sign this..

You guys have only just found out?

We've been talking about on the Muse boards since about 8:45pm. MuseWiki and Muse Syndrome are also hit. I've tried PM'ing Tom Wilson but he's not online and I've tried to submit a news post but it hasn't gone through.

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2. Remove any .............and non-musical material (such as interviews)

5) Remove all photographic material of the members of the band Muse that have been published without the express written permission of Warner Music.

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i cant understand all the other things they dont like but surely the ones ive quoted are beyond a joke.

aprils fools joke???

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RaymondM :
You guys have only just found out?

We've been talking about on the Muse boards since about 8:45pm.

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Some of us .livers have been out

Are you serious? That's terrible, Microcuts is an amazing site. It's like...a Muse haven for all hard to find pictures.

I hope this is some kind of April Fools joke. Is Muselive next...?

I hope it is, its too early for April Fools though, it would be bad luck..

IT IS UNLIKELY TO BE A JOKE! THIS STARTED ON THE 31ST MARCH WHICH ISN'T APRIL'S FOOLS!

But yeah, in the early days Micro Cuts was essentially the official Muse website because the real one at the time was shite and borked a lot of the time. It would be tragic to see it go.

LOL

So what's the deal with this site anyway? Is this going to be affected at all?? Dear God, that would be the icing on poison cake

Um, I really hope that all of this is a really poor April Fool's joke.

Edit: Just because discussion started on the 31st doesn't mean it isn't one. Didn't stop James from pulling one of the biggest Muse-related pranks ever, did it? But if it is real....seriously, fuck Warner. That copyright stuff is total bullshit.

are you fucking serious warner?? Are pictures of a band harming someone or losing them significant amounts of money? Um, no! I'd better hide my site as well it looks like. It means they'd take ML down too...I hope not

EDIT: Ok, just kidding, this has got to be 100% an April Fools joke. A scary one for a minute there!

EDIT 2: Ok, I'm now I'm not so sure afer looking at the points people have been making. This is the WRONG time to pull this if it is real...

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real constructive comment to add to the thread. well done.

Fuck these huge record companies. The internet is the one place of freedom left! Not for much longer!

Edit: Haha at post above, Omar..

If microcuts goes down, this site also I guess.
What a load of crap. Why does warner music suddenly make such a big deal of it? The other record companys muse signed with before, didn't seem to bother.
And, all these pictures, downloads, ...
It's all stuff you don't have to pay for anyway! actually google also needs to be shut down then, or what?

ok, it's april the 1st. but this seems real to me ( besides, the news is from 22.00pm yesterday )

Muse has such a huge online community, they can't just put a stop to it...

Edit: But if this is a joke, I seriously hate April Fools.

I'd say april fools joke.

Warner wouldn't have only just found out about muse fan sites now when they have been up for years. its april the first! cummon!

Its gotta be an April Fool!

this probably is a (all be it early) april fools joke...i cant see warner being that pissed off about there media being broadcast like this as youtube and shit would need to be attacked too

http://www.microcuts.net/uk/news/archives/03312007-legal_actions.php

Take a look. It was announced before midnight. March 31st. Doesn't look like April Fools to me.

Well who wants to start downloaded all the pictures on Microcuts just in case? Ha.

Hehe. Yeah, everyone download everything from that site and get it on here so even when they are gone (if they are gone) they are still available somewhere

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Well who wants to start downloaded all the pictures on Microcuts just in case? Ha.

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Thanks for volunteering yourself.

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yorke :
Well who wants to start downloaded all the pictures on Microcuts just in case? Ha.

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Thanks for volunteering yourself.

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Thanks for being a smartass!

Seriously guys, just because of it being announced "just before midnight" means that it's not an April Fools Joke?

Call me once bitten, twice shy, but I'm going to take this with a huge grain of salt until I hear further news.

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yorke :
Well who wants to start downloaded all the pictures on Microcuts just in case? Ha.

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Thanks for volunteering yourself.

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Thanks for being a smartass!

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