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I do get annoyed at people constantly talking him up (But what more can you expect from ITV; They're such a suck channel that hardly ever talk about anyone else), although I must agree with them that he has got talent for someone so young and he is going to be good in the future.


He is pretty good now, you dont start poll if your shite tbh. He is talked up though. Kubica is the best.


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 00:20 GMT | #1164279 |   | Split
Fucking Hamsandwich, cost Kimi the race. I'm glad he got docked 10 positions. Twat.


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I do get annoyed at people constantly talking him up (But what more can you expect from ITV; They're such a suck channel that hardly ever talk about anyone else), although I must agree with them that he has got talent for someone so young and he is going to be good in the future.


He is pretty good now, you dont start poll if your shite tbh. He is talked up though. Kubica is the best.



It's thing's like today which are what I'm reffering to.

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Fucking Hamsandwich, cost Kimi the race. I'm glad he got docked 10 positions. Twat.



I love how you talk as though he did it on purpose. I'm sure he enjoyed loosing out on the point's he would have claimed, since round that track he could have beat both Ferrari's. He didn't suddenly think 'A race I'm going to win, but just to be funny... DIE KIMI DIE'.


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Fucking Hamsandwich, cost Kimi the race. I'm glad he got docked 10 positions. Twat.



Docked ten position?!? Or points?


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Fucking Hamsandwich, cost Kimi the race. I'm glad he got docked 10 positions. Twat.



Docked ten position?!? Or points?



Position's in the next race. Dumbass.


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Fucking Hamsandwich, cost Kimi the race. I'm glad he got docked 10 positions. Twat.



I love how you talk as though he did it on purpose. I'm sure he enjoyed loosing out on the point's he would have claimed, since round that track he could have beat both Ferrari's. He didn't suddenly think 'A race I'm going to win, but just to be funny... DIE KIMI DIE'.



If he'd actually been looking, it wouldn't have happened. So yeah, it's completely his fault and i'm blaming him for it.

Oh and he did swerve to the left (into Kimi) as he braked.. tactical decision? :P


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Fucking Hamsandwich, cost Kimi the race. I'm glad he got docked 10 positions. Twat.



Docked ten position?!? Or points?



Position's in the next race. Dumbass.



*see's the light*
Is there any point in him racing if theres no chance of getting points?


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Fucking Hamsandwich, cost Kimi the race. I'm glad he got docked 10 positions. Twat.



I love how you talk as though he did it on purpose. I'm sure he enjoyed loosing out on the point's he would have claimed, since round that track he could have beat both Ferrari's. He didn't suddenly think 'A race I'm going to win, but just to be funny... DIE KIMI DIE'.



If he'd actually been looking, it wouldn't have happened. So yeah, it's completely his fault and i'm blaming him for it.

Oh and he did swerve to the left (into Kimi) as he braked.. tactical decision? :P



If I saw Kimi on the road, I'd want to swerve into him. :P Let's just blame Mclaren. Even if it's not their fault. It's good to blame them.


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 00:31 GMT | #1164293 |   | Split
What do you have against Kimi? ...And McLaren for that matter, i like Mclaren.


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What do you have against Kimi? ...And McLaren for that matter, i like Mclaren.



Nothing particular against Kimi. I'm bound not to like other driver's because I'm a fan of Hamilton (It's difficult not to be when it's been awhile since England has had a driver who's name is not constantly followed by the word 'OUT'. :P I'm about to say the most cynical thing I can think off: Makes up for what he did to Sutil / Kovalainen. Although I'm not blaming him for either of those incidents, it was a race accident, just like this. I'm being so amazingly wry tonight. :P


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 00:56 GMT | #1164320 |   | Split
Kimi's brakes locking up on a random wet patch and firing into the back of Sutil at 200mph is definitely an avoidable accident?

Hamilton at 30 odd mph in the pitlane, staring at the back of a parked Kubica and Raikkonen, then thumping straight into the back of them, due to his negligence in failing to look at the lights.. (or looking straight ahead of him for that matter).. is an avoidable accident.

You cannot compare the two. Clearly the stewards see the difference between that and a genuine racing accident, as they didnt penalise Kimi Raikkonen in Monaco.. did they.


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 01:03 GMT | #1164330 |   | Split
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Kimi's brakes locking up on a random wet patch and firing into the back of Sutil at 200mph is definitely an avoidable accident?

Hamilton at 30 odd mph in the pitlane, staring at the back of a parked Kubica and Raikkonen, then thumping straight into the back of them, due to his negligence in failing to look at the lights.. (or looking straight ahead of him for that matter).. is an avoidable accident.

You cannot compare the two. Clearly the stewards see the difference between that and a genuine racing accident, as they didnt penalise Kimi Raikkonen in Monaco.. did they.



No. They should have. Especially after what he did to Kovalainen in Turkey ruining one of his best chance's of a Grand Prix win. Once is forgivable, twice is not.

He need's to stop ruining other people's races. Just like his was today.


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 01:09 GMT | #1164336 |   | Split
They should have penalised Kimi for a completely unavoidable accident? Wow, that's a pretty harsh view to take.

So what about Hamsandwiches misdemeanour today? Should that have been penalised? If so, was the 10 place drop fair?


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 01:15 GMT | #1164348 |   | Split
Driver incompetence cannot be compared to mechanical faults.


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 01:19 GMT | #1164352 |   | Split
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They should have penalised Kimi for a completely unavoidable accident? Wow, that's a pretty harsh view to take.

So what about Hamsandwiches misdemeanour today? Should that have been penalised? If so, was the 10 place drop fair?



That's the point I'm argueing. If Hamilton is being penalised for ruining Kimi's and his own race, then Kimi should be penalised for not necessarily the incident with Sutil which I'll admit was unavoidable, but the more avoidable 'why-don't-you-just-wait-a-minute' collision with Kovalinen which ruined his race, and deffinatly for those two combined. If Hamiltion's penalty is taking place, then the Iceman shouldn't have been driving like an IceCream Man (It's late, and that's the best food refference I could drop into one of these posts) during a few other races. :P


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 01:20 GMT | #1164359 |   | Split
I don't even remember the Kovy incident, care to refresh my memory?

+ What are you on about Kimi driving like an Ice Cream man? I don't even know what race you're referring to there!


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I don't even remember the Kovy incident, care to refresh my memory?

+ What are you on about Kimi driving like an Ice Cream man? I don't even know what race you're referring to there!



Turkey. After qualifying on the front row of the grid for the first time, Kimi took out Kovs tires in a race he had a deccent chance of winning. While Kovalainen finished out of the points, Kimi continued and ended up 3rd.

Oh, and don't take my lame joke so literally. That's like me asking when you've ever seen Lewis eating Ham sandwiches. >_>


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 01:36 GMT | #1164380 |   | Split
That? That was nothing more than a racing accident, both drivers acknowledged that as well. Not only that, but it's not like it didn't affect Kimi.. it broke his wing and, arguably, could have cost him the win as well. I didn't really see that as a big deal at all. Just one of those things.


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 01:44 GMT | #1164389 |   | Split
It was still a driver's fault. Not a mechanical fault. Just like today.

I'm not arguing that Lewis isn't a complete and utter wank for what he did today, what I am saying is that I don't believe he should recieve such a harsh penalty when he's already faced the consequence of not winning the race, which with the Mclaren's advantage over the Ferraris around that track he probably would have. Whereas Kimi caused the loss of a race for Kovalainen while only having minor reprecutions from himself, if any.

Ah well, it doesn't really matter what we say here. It won't change the decisions, and we wont change each other's stance on them either. :P


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 11:41 GMT | #1164884 |   | Split
if your saying Kimi should of got a penalty in monaco (which is stupid) ... your saying hamilton should also be penalised for running over alonso's back wing... Hmailton should of looked up, kimi and kubica did. hamiltons fault and totally deserves getting a penalty


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if your saying Kimi should of got a penalty in monaco (which is stupid) ...



Yes, and I said that no where.


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Report this post | 09 Jun 2008 18:39 GMT | #1165607 |   | Split
ahh so you didnt looking back some ppls reactions implied that you did....i was tired and was on this board and an F1 board on BBC so must of got mixed, my apolgies.

btw must go and post on the bbc forums as i must have meant to posted ther... some clowns over ther really havent got a clue what they are talking about

i also said "if" lol not that you did ;)

on another note ummm what did alonso say which itv had to apoligise for in the race ive listened to it again and again and he never swore, nly thing he didnt do was mention lewis hamilton lol


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on another note ummm what did alonso say which itv had to apoligise for in the race ive listened to it again and again and he never swore, nly thing he didnt do was mention lewis hamilton lol



That was the problem. Another driver being on TV. People don't expect that from ITV. :P

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Fucking Hamsandwich, cost Kimi the race. I'm glad he got docked 10 positions. Twat.



I love how you talk as though he did it on purpose. I'm sure he enjoyed loosing out on the point's he would have claimed, since round that track he could have beat both Ferrari's. He didn't suddenly think 'A race I'm going to win, but just to be funny... DIE KIMI DIE'.



If he'd actually been looking, it wouldn't have happened. So yeah, it's completely his fault and i'm blaming him for it.

Oh and he did swerve to the left (into Kimi) as he braked.. tactical decision? :P



I agree completley he was right behind Robert then suddenly he swerves and then brakes locks up and boom *in Lewis head* "quick look confused"


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I'm thinking of going to the test this year, i was just wondering.. does anyone know what drivers will be on what days? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Grant? I know you visit Silverstone quite a bit!


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