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Report this post | 04 Jun 2006 13:39 GMT | #380147 |   | Split
i know love the sound soo much.....certainly worth lookin into!!


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Report this post | 04 Jun 2006 16:39 GMT | #380312 |   | Split
Some kind of delay and randomizer along with a fuzz factory is what it sounds like to me.


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Report this post | 04 Jun 2006 17:11 GMT | #380325 |   | Split
i think it's a delay with the whammy pedal being turned on and off with the footswitch
thast how i do it (C powerchord)


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Report this post | 04 Jun 2006 19:15 GMT | #380427 |   | Split
Theres an effect on a lot of zoom pedals called step, it sounds very much like that!


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Report this post | 04 Jun 2006 20:11 GMT | #380485 |   | Split
its an envelope filter. (octave changes and this kind of "delayey" sound which are the different steps)


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Report this post | 04 Jun 2006 20:18 GMT | #380494 |   | Split
that be the one its a seriously cool effect, has been used by alot of other artists, I think John Frucisante (chili peppers for people who live under rocks!) has used it


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Report this post | 04 Jun 2006 20:32 GMT | #380505 |   | Split
where can we buy this effect pedal or who makes it.


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Report this post | 05 Jun 2006 04:24 GMT | #380718 |   | Split
Tremolo thats what it is, cause in a line 6 it has that effect and when you put the tremolo all the way up it randomizes kinda o and with added delay


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Report this post | 05 Jun 2006 14:52 GMT | #381041 |   | Split
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Tremolo thats what it is, cause in a line 6 it has that effect and when you put the tremolo all the way up it randomizes kinda o and with added delay



if youre talking about the melody in the background after the first pre-chorus (...since I met you) youre right.
it sounds like a tremolo combined with a slight ring modulation.
but the effect in the beginning is something else, as said before.


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Report this post | 06 Jun 2006 03:51 GMT | #381777 |   | Split
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its an envelope filter. (octave changes and this kind of "delayey" sound which are the different steps)



agree. or you can used a guitar syth ! i remember a digitech pedal which can produced similar sound


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Report this post | 08 Jun 2006 17:11 GMT | #387596 |   | Split
it not a tremelo or delay!!! as the note is not repeating like that. I have a line6 Filter pro, and the best way i could do it was the voicebox setting


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Report this post | 18 Jun 2008 16:13 GMT | #1180637 |   | Split
Map of the problematic sound on the Korg Ax3000g

Matt Uses a 16 step sequencer for his sound. i found a sound on my korg pedel thats sounds exactly like it even tho its only an 8 step one

this will work for other 8 step sequencers too if you choose the equiverlent on yours

Pre FX - Comp

Drive Amp - Orange distortion

Reverb - Hall

Modulation - Pitch shifter

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Step 2 . -12
Step 3 . -24
step 4 . -12
Step 5 . -24
Step 6 . -12
Step 7 . 0
Step 8 . -12

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i know it aint the same as others but trust me i sounds right. ill post a you tube vid to show ya when i sort my pc/camaera out

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Report this post | 18 Jun 2008 17:36 GMT | #1180820 |   | Split
n000000bs... there are so many completely wrong answers in this post.. i particularly liked the one about the delay and the fuzz factory (lol)

the effect uses the nord modular G2 to step sequence a pre-programmed whammy pattern. the pattern is made using MIDI and sent to the G2, probably by a laptop. this is live.

in the studio, i think they used 2 or 3 different amps and switched between them and some kind of pitch shifting (forgotten which) in a similar manner to above.

normal people who dont own a nord modular (e.g. everyone else) can use the effect if they have an effect pedal that has MIDI IN and whammy functionality across 2 octaves.. you also need a midi sequencer like cubase or logic to program the midi steps

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gYAVzSviktY
an example of me playing it when i first wrote the patch with my pod xt live

aaand

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sQPB9bxvPvI&feature=related
playing the song with my band after tweaking the patch i made.

i used cubase to sequence the whammy


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Report this post | 20 Jun 2008 22:28 GMT | #1184266 |   | Split
^ nicely solved chris!


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the_man361 :
n000000bs... there are so many completely wrong answers in this post.. i particularly liked the one about the delay and the fuzz factory (lol)



No need to be patronising...

I read it in an interview somewhere. Live, he has a programmable signal switcher that splits into three, one signal goes to a whammy set at an octave down, one signal goes to another whammy set at an octave up, and the third signal is normal. The signal switcher is programmed to pick the right signals at the right times to make the MOTP riff sequence. And since they play to a click track, the pattern can be set to change at the right time too (in MOTP the pattern is not the same all the way through). Although this signal switcher may be the Nord Modular G2...

In the studio, they had to reverse-engineer the sound with synths (whatever that means). Ah, found it:

""Map of the Problematique," we ended up putting down the guitars first because Dom was out of town. That song was originally all done on keyboards and I really wanted to hear it on guitar, but it was impossible - there was no way to play the keyboard part on the guitar. We spent about two days back-engineering what the keyboard part was on guitar. So it is actually a guitar that is going through three different modular synths that are opening up at different times. Two of the synths are routed into different pitch shifters - one is an octave up, the other is an octave down. Then we chose what octave we wanted to hear based on which synth we wanted to open up at which time. We had like an ARP 2600, some other things and a little spring reverb that was sort of playing the high octave. It was all done with hardware and the guitar was split into three: One went into the ARP 2600, Korg MS-20 and and EMS Synthi AKS."

There you go.


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Report this post | 21 Jun 2008 19:05 GMT | #1185192 |   | Split
well found, gc couldnt find that interview

i agree, theres no need to be patronising, but i also dont see why people would post the answers like some of the ones above when its blatantly not the MOTP effect


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Report this post | 21 Jun 2008 20:48 GMT | #1185307 |   | Split
^^^ well maybe it the closest thing to it that they can find using their own setup


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^^^ well maybe it the closest thing to it that they can find using their own setup



exactly right so stop being a cock about it chris, its a place for discussion and thats what they were doing.

nehoo theres loads of threads on this already


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Report this post | 22 Jun 2008 09:42 GMT | #1185773 |   | Split
^^^ Scotsmen stick toghether


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Report this post | 22 Jun 2008 14:10 GMT | #1186126 |   | Split
dam straight


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well found, gc couldnt find that interview

i agree, theres no need to be patronising, but i also dont see why people would post the answers like some of the ones above when its blatantly not the MOTP effect



You've also got to consider, that while it isn't a tremolo effect (however obvious that may be to you), the sound also isn't achieved by the method you use. Yes it sounds similar, and is probably the closest you'll get without the gear but it's still incorrect so i'd jump off your high-horse if I were you. For those without the gear that you have, using a cheap tweaked delay effect you can achieve something that you can play along to the song with and still have a remote amount of fun. Delay effect is to your method what your method is to Matt's method. *shrug*. It all boils down to gear.

Worth noting that Matt has mentioned the gear cost 20k to achieve the sound.


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Report this post | 22 Jun 2008 17:42 GMT | #1186429 |   | Split
yeah i suppose so.. just thought in a thread about how matt does it the way he said about in that interview needed to be quoted

i agree its not an easy effect to do if you have the amount of gear most guitarist have (im only able to do it my way cos of the stuff i have for recording), so yeh.. i guess alternative methods are helpful, but shouldnt be saying that it is what matt actually plays

if you get what i mean haha, i could probably have written that far more coherently.


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Report this post | 23 Jun 2008 10:04 GMT | #1187197 |   | Split
LOLLOL omg

did noone think of checking the official sheet music ?

OK everyone who is reading this i'm about to tell u what it really is!!

According to the sheet music it is...
yes! you at the back! what is it you say?
ahyes! it is FLANGER at 16 beats per minute with slight distortion!
ther you go no need to thank me


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LOLLOL omg

did noone think of checking the official sheet music ?

OK everyone who is reading this i'm about to tell u what it really is!!

According to the sheet music it is...
yes! you at the back! what is it you say?
ahyes! it is FLANGER at 16 beats per minute with slight distortion!
ther you go no need to thank me



Indeed, there's no need to thank you. The sheet music is often wrong, and this is one of those times.

The studio verison - it has been said in interviews with Rich Costey - is the guitar triggering two synths in a preset pattern. Live I'm sure a similar effect is achieved by the process GC_13 outlined up there somewhere ^^^

Come to think of it, flanger at 16 beats per minute? That's very slow. Have I just been trolled?


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Report this post | 23 Jun 2008 12:07 GMT | #1187331 |   | Split
lol, 16 bpm


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