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A world were everyone was a true born again Christian would be truly awesome but alas probably impossible.
God does not like the idea of being spiritually cut off from his people but that is the punishment for disobeying God and turning away from his Word.
We (through Adam and Eve) rebelled against God and went our own way but God wanted us to be in a loving relationship with Him so that is why he sent Jesus.
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Why don't Christian's preach the word of god on a global scale as the bible states?
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we do, but no one wants us to in the west. Christianity is illegal in China and in 2010 its estimated tha 40% will be Christians. There are churches in Africa with around half a million attenders, and this is all because of Biblical evangelism. In the west unfortunately we have people who want to change Christianity to suit the world, and that is resulting in decreasing numbers in countries like England and Canada. But still there is great work being done in the west for example, bible believing churches in Australia (especially in Sydney) almost double in numbers every few years while Liberal churches are literally halving every year. this is because bible believing churches emphasize on like you said teaching christianity on a "Global scale" which is also what missionaries are for.
to donaldbain, i'll try and answer a couple of questions you posed. Firstly, God is a jealous God, he wants his people to worship him. But he loves mankind so much that he will obey their requests, so if someone does not want to be in a relationship with God they won't have one, for eternity unless they repent. Being good is not about being Christian, one must be born again and confess with their heart and mouth that Jesus is Lord through his Death and Resurrection.
the consequence of driving on the wrong side of the road is death, God is the government and he says the way to live is on his side of the road, any other way will result in death.
stem cell research, homosexual marriage and abortion are not primarily christian views, people understand that murder is wrong and that the survival of the human race is important. there is nothing primarily Christian about that.
adelaide is not conservative, it is controlled by primarily liberal leaders but yes the (conservative) evangelical churches there are massive but there are only a few but their numbers outnumber all the hundreds of liberal churches combined.
spain mexico and italy are the sad product of the spreading of Christianity by sword, by the pope. you must understand that most "Christians" in these countries don't understand the salvation of Jesus christ and our justification through faith alone, the most important aspect of Christianity. the papacy and the inqusitions burnt or murdered anyone who weren't Catholic, and that is one of the most evil events in the history of Christianity. its ironic the pope accused islam of spreading by the sword.
it is impossible for the world to be entirely Christian, but as Christians we have a responsibility to warn people of their actions, not to change them but to warn them because the consequences are death.
darn, another long post.
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I used to be Christian till I found out how false it was...
Can't you see that God has been made in the image of man as opposed to we in his Image? You say God's a Jealous God? If I were he, I'd be insulted. Do really think that God has the same petty emotions that generate from our brain?
How can God be this Omnipotent being and still have this stupid little feelings... Look outside ur mind. You're trapped in ur own humanity...
With omnipotence in God that would suggest that he can see the future and know all yes? Then where is our free will?
Why do we as Human's feel the need to be so important? Why do we believe that this "God" is like us...
I AM THAT I AM NOT
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do you know what jealous means, there are two definitions of jealous, one is kind of like envy. the other is generated by love, say if you love your children and you dont want them to die, you are jealous over your children.
i wouldnt call that "stupid little emotions".
its a shame you're not a christian anymore, because i still dont know why you think its false. just because we have free will, God is still in control and he knows what we will think, its not all that complicated to understand that there is a God who is in control of everything but gives free will to the ones created in his image so that they can choose to glorify him. its just a shame you've chosen otherwise.
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I am not a believer but I respect people who are and respect what they believe is different to other people.
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Has anyone mentioned the ties/similarities to ancient religion Christianity has and the stories that are repeated in the bible which have already been told by other ancient religions?
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can you name all these stories and these ancient religions? i would be interested to hear this. otherwise it's possible you've been reading too much of the da vinci code which happens to be a fictional book.
are there any other ancient religions who have God sending his only son to die and rise again for the sins of mankind? maybe you can answer me that, and no the egyptian god osiris is not a similarity, even though he was resurrected there are no other similarities. Christianity is the only belief where God redeems the sinner, unless you can find any others.
by the way i tried to answer your previous questions up the page a bit, hope they helped you.
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I'm Christian. Well, to be precise, I'm Catholic.
But I've taken the religion and put my own twist on it. I don't agree with organised religion. I think it's ridiculous. I think people should take teachings, whatever the source, and apply them on a personal basis.
I believe things, but I believe them for me. Because I choose to. Not because I'm part of a group and I have to.
Anyone who takes everything written in The Bible as gospel pretty much boggles my mind. It's fairly common knowledge that The Bible has been ammended more times than the dictionary, generally to appease the monarch or ruler of the time, or the people under them.
I take The Bible for what I believe it is - guidelines on how to lead a better life, rather than rules. Stories, teachings, proverbs.
Anyway, that's some of my thoughts on the matter. I could go on all day though. I love all this.
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can you name all these stories and these ancient religions? i would be interested to hear this. otherwise it's possible you've been reading too much of the da vinci code which happens to be a fictional book.
First of all I have to say that I find that comment monumentally rude and insulting and if I was Jonathan I'd be pretty pissed off at having a 16 imply that I was stupid.
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are there any other ancient religions who have God sending his only son to die and rise again for the sins of mankind? maybe you can answer me that, and no the egyptian god osiris is not a similarity, even though he was resurrected there are no other similarities. Christianity is the only belief where God redeems the sinner, unless you can find any others.
The beliefs of the ancient Egyptians are actually quite relevant, let's not forget that both feature a God figure who is unjustly persecuted, killed and then brought back from the dead. There is evidence to suggest that in fact the great figures of the Old Testament were taken from actual Egyptian historical figures, and let's not forget the obvious - that Christianity is a Jewish cult and that half the Bible is the holy works of another religion.
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It's fairly common knowledge that The Bible has been ammended more times than the dictionary, generally to appease the monarch or ruler of the time, or the people under them.
i guess you'd find it interesting that still today the translations of the Bible that are used in bible-believing churches (but some literally are ammended like the Mormon King James, The Jehovah's Witness Bible and many Catholic and Orthodox books), are just about word for word translated from the original greek in the first century.
To deimos, i wasnt meaning to be offensive i actually do you want to know what he's referring to. As for the "works of another religion", the New Testament (the "Christian" part) is in complete fulfillment with the Old Testament ("Jew Part") making it just as important to the Jewish religion than any other. And i think if you want to accuse religions of borrowing things then Christianity would be the last you'd go to, try Islam (all teaching of Judaism and Christianity combined as well as others), Buddhism (compilation of old proverbs and sayings) and of course Hinduism, i mean with a religion with infinite gods you're going to find it hard not to plagarize. and of course Mormonism and Scientology borrow from science-fiction novels heavily, and one whole book of Mormon is literally word for word translated from an Ancient egyptian funerary text.
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I agree, my Church tends to use the New International Version, which is a fresh translation from the original texts. Also there are lots of new (Bible believing / teaching) Churches opening in England and the ones that are closing are the more traditional Churches because people want more than they can offer (i.e. more Bible teaching etc.)
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although im going to hell, yes i am christain 
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I'm confused, how can you someone say "I'm going to hell" and in the next breath say "But yes I am a Christian"? Do you mean that you were raised in a Christian environment but are not committed?
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Has anyone mentioned the ties/similarities to ancient religion Christianity has and the stories that are repeated in the bible which have already been told by other ancient religions?
All these religions have shared common experiences. The great flood in the bible has in fact been mentioned by numerous other religions, zoroastrians, ancient chinese, indus valley civ, ancient mesopotamians, many more. so it doesn't really mean all religion is the same, it's just they experienced the same thing and recorded it.
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Indeed they do Adrian and considering the Bible covers the entire history of the universe it is really other religions borrowing from the Bible. I mean how old are these "ancient" religions meant to be?
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This is what I believe. Everyone is a decendent of Noah this is taught in the bible. He and his family (four woman and three sons) were the only human survivors from the flood. It also says Shem Ham and Japheth spread out across the world. The book of genesis wasn't formally written until Moses wrote it thousands of years later, and he of course was inspired by God. So much of these stories had to have been passed down generation to generation and ended up as stories in other religions. I would like to really share, but i feel at the moment i cannot since i have fallen away.
and i don't know how "ancient" these religions have to be, but most certainly they did not take from the bible, since the genesis was recorded by moses much after these other religions surfaced.
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This is what I believe. Everyone is a decendent of Noah this is taught in the bible. He and his family (four woman and three sons) were the only human survivors from the flood. It also says Shem Ham and Japheth spread out across the world. The book of genesis wasn't formally written until Moses wrote it thousands of years later, and he of course was inspired by God. So much of these stories had to have been passed down generation to generation and ended up as stories in other religions. I would like to really share, but i feel at the moment i cannot since i have fallen away.
and i don't know how "ancient" these religions have to be, but most certainly they did not take from the bible, since the genesis was recorded by moses much after these other religions surfaced.
Of course it's physically impossible for any human population under 200 people to reproduce because the homozygocity is too great (i.e. every child born in sterile). And don't get me started on Noah's Ark, it is actually a total impossibility for it to happen as is described in the Bible. Unless of course, "God did it", which is the greatest of all get-out clauses isn't it?
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If you need 200 humans to successfully reproduce how did the human race come into being, did 200 apes suddenly evolve at the same time?
Also how is Noah saving all the animals on his Ark impossibility? I would be grateful if you could expand on this further.
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Deimos
And don't get me started on Noah's Ark
DESARENEZITIC
How is Noah saving all the animals on his Ark impossibility? I would be grateful if you could expand on this further.
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Eh? Is it going to be a long reply or something?
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have you guys heard of the cave found on the top of a mountain in armenia that is shaped in the exact same way as an ark eroded by wood with the exact measurements as the biblical one. that is pretty berserk. so theres no denying it happened even for skeptics.
and also no mean to be harsh, cause for some reason my replies to deimos are always taken as harsh but what gives you the grounds to rule something out as a "total impossibility". i think the God who could create the universe in a number of days would be having a good laugh when he hears of one of his creatures ruling out something as an impossibility.
flight was called an impossibility, space travel was called an impossibility, the earth being round was considered an impossibility, ressurection was considered impossible; but they all happened. seriously i think fitting animals on a boat isnt that hard for the eternal God of the universe; just think of it like snakes on a plane, just lots of animals on a boat.
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I agree completely and a lot of people have a few misconceptions about Noah's Ark, for example: -
1. The Ark was HUGE easily big enough to fit 30 double decker buses onboard.
2. A lot fewer animals than people imagine would have been needed (i.e. Noah didn't need to take all the domestic dogs we see today).
3. The world before the flood was very different from what we see today.
Don't worry about deimos, he seems to be able to hold is own and I'm sure he like's these little discussions, am I right deimos?
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