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wel it does if he can fly around and do divine things haha
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dogs tend to do a lot of divine, but smelly things on people's lawns each day
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i see what might they be lol
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what the hell are you all on about?
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Discussing God's name. Then we decided that seeing as god is dog backwards, then god must be a dog.
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erm christian things like is god called geoffrey or sean and dogs doing divine things in back gardens etc u know the plot
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Imagine trying to pray to Jeff...
"Dear Jeff... *bursts into hysterical fits of laughter*"
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haha u ledge and by the way GOD is GODs name so ur a bit stumped there Mr Fundamently
God means most high its not a name dickhead.
gods name is yahweh in hebrew and in english is jehovah
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how the fuck do you quote
yes he does it
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yeah.. hit the edit button mate. saves us from looking at spam 
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Also God could of created the Big Bang and the reason why god has always been there is because he created time, and time can be bent which surggest
it was created along with the universe.
actually, we created time....as a way of measurment
Your opinion is not definitive
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yer the egypyptions created years and the basis around 12 didnt they like 12 hours a day an 12 months
soz i think thts it
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yes we did measure time but its not a constant. if you were to have two clocks left one on earth, and flew the other one millions of miles into space then over time the two clocks would show a different time, this is a fact.
another theory states that blackholes can bend time i think.
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Speaking of time, so when god created the earth in 7 days he must've been on something eh? He must have hit the devil up for some gooood shit. "Hey devil...buddy...pal...got any hell gear?"
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yes we did measure time but its not a constant. if you were to have two clocks left one on earth, and flew the other one millions of miles into space then over time the two clocks would show a different time, this is a fact.
another theory states that blackholes can bend time i think.
We base our time around the sun, so obviously if we are elsewhere in the universe time is going to be different!
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He is right that time is malleable though. If you were right next to a black hole holding a clock, an observer would see the clock slow right down almost to a stop, but to the person holding it near the black hole, it'd be working fine. It's all to do with perception, and being tied up with space and all that jazz.
Still not quite sure what that has to do with God existing though. If He did create the universe just for us why didn't he make time a bit less complicated instead of all this space/time rubbish?
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Exactly. It's like Donnie Darko all over again.
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how did it come to this :
we were home grown by aliens
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Are you a scientologist.
Actually, I am reading some books (12th Planet) that give a lot of really compelling evidence to the fact that we were actually "home grown by aliens." It blows my mind how much evidence there is to support this idea! But yeah, the Scientologist version of that theory is completely ridiculously silly 
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Therefore, I simply try to live well and treat my fellow human with respect and kindness, which is really the basic idea behind pretty much every religion. I also pray to one God every night, even though I am not too positive that he may exist in the form that I speak to. But I believe that most faiths are all basically trying to describe the same phenomenon: That existence didn't just randomly appear out of nothing. So if it turns out that my one God is actually a bunch of Gods or a cow or a divine system of cosmic forces, I figure it really won't matter in the end.
Phew, thanks for reading!
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Pretty much same as me, treat people as you would like to be treated. I don't believe I need to speak to something to do that though. Life didn't appear out of nothing, read my earlier link. I think a lot of people pray out of fear, that if they don't they might not go to heaven, a bit like hedging your bets...just in case. Where it falls down again imo is, who is right? The people who worship the cow, the sun, Buddah, Allah??? And what about people who have been isolated from religion their whole life? How are they supposed to work out that there is a god they should be praying to? And what about a deaf/mute who hasn't been instructed to pray and follow "gods" teachings? Are they all damned to go to hell?
It just has more holes in it than swiss cheese.
You bring up a lot of good stuff here! I think I was a little unclear: I didn't mean to say that I don't believe existence came from "nothing", but that I don't believe it was created completely by random events, or without some guiding force.
I agree a lot of people pray out of fear (I love the lyrics to Fury!) myself included when I was younger. Nowadays, I pray so that I can constantly remind myself of what's important in my life (i.e. please look after my family, help me do the right thing, blah blah). I figure even if no on is listening, it's still a good thing to do every night.
Yeah, I agree with your last part. That's partly the reason that I feel all the religions are basically based off of the same thing... eh, yeah, hard for me to say much else here
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By the same token then "just because good things happen doesn't mean there IS a god"
And the Noah story, how could anyone seriously ever have believed that, ffs! Hahaha.
I agree, and I didn't mean for my original point to be used as a proof that there IS a God. I just get a little upset at people who dismiss the idea of God because of bad things in life.
Surprisingly, there is a lot of evidence to support the idea that there really was a huge flood, and that there was a Noah-type figure in history. The books I am reading make an interesting point that if you read the Noah story with the assumption that there are multiple "Gods" instead of just one, it actually makes a lot more sense. I won't go into it, but I recommend those "12th Planet" books. Really interesting stuff! But yeah, it is definately too bad that it is so obviously incorrect in the Biblical version and that so many people take it to be.
PS. I'm not trying to dismiss your ideas... just making conversation
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well the problem with religion is that it is so dogmatic. any physicist trying to make any claim has to have the maths to prove it. with religion you can handily skip and that say its "magical" or "divine" simply not understanding everything isn't a valid enough reason to worship an unknown enity that has had no direct physic contact with this planet or any of its inhabitants.
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He is right that time is malleable though. If you were right next to a black hole holding a clock, an observer would see the clock slow right down almost to a stop, but to the person holding it near the black hole, it'd be working fine. It's all to do with perception, and being tied up with space and all that jazz.
Still not quite sure what that has to do with God existing though. If He did create the universe just for us why didn't he make time a bit less complicated instead of all this space/time rubbish?
because if time can be bent then whos to say there was a begining of time. which could explain why god has always been there.
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i dont think i explaned that very well, sorry my english is shit
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im christian, cant be bothered following what u guys r talknig about!
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if theres no religion, this world will be crippled,
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