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You should disapprove of those who have killed, not the means by which they kill.
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go to new orleans and you get get 3-4 killed a day, not including all the armed robberies and break-ins
Only a fool doesnt consider the possibility that hes a fool.
Im not insensitive, I just dont care.
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You should disapprove of those who have killed, not the means by which they kill.
It probably wouldn't have happened in the first place if the US didn't have such terrible gun control.
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You should disapprove of those who have killed, not the means by which they kill.
It goes without saying that I disapprove of the murderer.
But as Ethan said, if America didn't have such shit gun control, then killings like this would be more rare.
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You should disapprove of those who have killed, not the means by which they kill.

It probably wouldn't have happened in the first place if the US didn't have such terrible gun control.
I'm curious why the facepalm. I have never seen a gun kill someone without a person causing it.
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You should disapprove of those who have killed, not the means by which they kill.

It probably wouldn't have happened in the first place if the US didn't have such terrible gun control.
I'm curious why the facepalm. I have never seen a gun kill someone without a person causing it.
The guns aren't the problem. I never said they were. The problem is that any lunatic and their inbred cousin can get their hands on one in the US.
You can own guns in many countries with no problem. The difference you can't just walk into Wal-Mart and get them.
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True. I wouldn't be opposed to having some procedures to go through to get a license. Even with that, stories like this will still occur often.
edit: Wal-Mart is their own separate thing. I've never liked the way walmart does things.
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go to new orleans and you get get 3-4 killed a day, not including all the armed robberies and break-ins
Chicago's bad neighborhoods are exactly the same. Over 100 people under the age of 21 last summer or something.
The lunatic who shot the senator cleared the all the gun control rules, even though he freaked people out, made all these weird comments about society that scared people. Gun control still doesn't work.
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go to new orleans and you get get 3-4 killed a day, not including all the armed robberies and break-ins
Chicago's bad neighborhoods are exactly the same. Over 100 people under the age of 21 last summer or something.
The lunatic who shot the senator cleared the all the gun control rules, even though he freaked people out, made all these weird comments about society that scared people. Gun control still doesn't work.
He passed the gun control rules because the US has none. Proper gun control does work. Look at Norway. They have more guns per household than the US. Since they have proper gun control they don't have lunatics shooting police officers or political figures.
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we also need to improve education (might not work in every case but it improves a hell of a lot things)
Only a fool doesnt consider the possibility that hes a fool.
Im not insensitive, I just dont care.
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go to new orleans and you get get 3-4 killed a day, not including all the armed robberies and break-ins
Chicago's bad neighborhoods are exactly the same. Over 100 people under the age of 21 last summer or something.
The lunatic who shot the senator cleared the all the gun control rules, even though he freaked people out, made all these weird comments about society that scared people. Gun control still doesn't work.
He passed the gun control rules because the US has none. Proper gun control does work. Look at Norway. They have more guns per household than the US. Since they have proper gun control they don't have lunatics shooting police officers or political figures.
that's what i meant to say. We don't have proper gun control. But there is so much lobbying and resistance to overcome for stricter rules.
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Colorado has no gun registration law. I could literally walk into wal-mart, buy a shotgun and some shells, then walk out. Even after Columbine
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we also need to improve education (might not work in every case but it improves a hell of a lot things)
Even if it didn't help crime rates, it's a good idea anyway.
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go to new orleans and you get get 3-4 killed a day, not including all the armed robberies and break-ins
Chicago's bad neighborhoods are exactly the same. Over 100 people under the age of 21 last summer or something.
The lunatic who shot the senator cleared the all the gun control rules, even though he freaked people out, made all these weird comments about society that scared people. Gun control still doesn't work.
He passed the gun control rules because the US has none. Proper gun control does work. Look at Norway. They have more guns per household than the US. Since they have proper gun control they don't have lunatics shooting police officers or political figures.
that's what i meant to say. We don't have proper gun control. But there is so much lobbying and resistance to overcome for stricter rules.
And thanks to the NRA being one of the most powerful lobbies in Washington, nothing will ever be about gun control. As soon as gun control is mentioned they throw the 2nd amendment in your face.
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Now that i go to school in wisconsin, im around a lot of people who own guns. They don't keep them with them, deerhunting is very big up in the north. Many more people own guns than where i live. Other than a few hunting accidents and a few drunk people with guns, there is not much violence. It's all in the cities Chicago, Milwaukee, Detroit. ect
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You should disapprove of those who have killed, not the means by which they kill.

It probably wouldn't have happened in the first place if the US didn't have such terrible gun control.
I'm curious why the facepalm. I have never seen a gun kill someone without a person causing it.
Of course not. But if America had any idea about actually controlling guns properly, it would be harder for this sort of thing to occur. You'll always get maniacs, and so all you can do is make it harder for them to acquire things that might hurt someone.
If you look at Britain, or Japan, or a handful of other countries, the gun control is so strict that they're basically illegal. Obviously, America and it's "right to bear arms" flag wavers wouldn't go for that, but even still there's countries like Norway (as someone mentioned) and Canada - countries that have exceptionally high gun ownership per centages but yet a fraction of the gun crime.
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I have to say, in Chicago, Policemen deaths are treated with such fanfare and reverence that it's almost insulting to all the innocent people who die and get one little police report mention. It's like the cop's life meant a 1000 more.
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Just another day in urban America, really. Only this time, it's four police that got it instead of four black kids on a street corner.
So it goes, eh?
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Everytime time someone types 'policeman,' I read 'pokemon.'
Anyhoo, I'm really not surprised, people getting shot in Detroit is just how the world works, I'm not even sure if this is thread worthy, at least 50 people were murdered in Cape Town yesterday. And to be honest, there are probably more than 4 murders per day in Detroit anyway, so this is only making news because they were policemen, and they're not even dead yet, and they probably won't.
Gun crime debate: guns shouldn't be legal, end of story.
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Quote yuanyelss :
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As Ethan said, if America didn't have such shit gun control, then killings like this would be more rare......
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Hahahahahaha, came in to cold sell but also felt compelled to agree with the current topic!
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You got some nerve, coming here.
I hate to agree with Barnaby, but the fact is, hes right.
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That's fantastic. I almost feel bad for banning him.
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