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Report this post | 14 Aug 2009 22:33 GMT | #1621651 |   | Split
Same with me, but depression is a pretty touchy topic.

Ah well, I don't want to start an argument here to be honest. Lets just leave it be.


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Report this post | 14 Aug 2009 22:35 GMT | #1621656 |   | Split
I dive into serious bouts of depression quite a lot. While there, its shit, but it really makes feeling good quite an overwhelming experience.


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Report this post | 25 Aug 2009 14:37 GMT | #1638621 |   | Split
i'm really struggling at the moment with this and i don't know where to go or what to do, and i hate it ....... i just feel like my brain is going to explode. I decide on something to help me, or where to go next to get help and then i will find an argument against it and decide to take a different direction, but there is never a resolution.... i always find someway to argue against what i decide and so i end up just being stuck here in limbo....

sorry that makes no sense whatsoever......


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Report this post | 25 Aug 2009 15:09 GMT | #1638652 |   | Split
I hate depression. Not actually having it, but the way it's paraded around more like a badge of honour than a genuine affliction by misguided teens trying to make the scene. It belittles the people that are actually suffering, and it's embarrassing for all concerned.

In terms of the actual affliction, it's not something I would see any benefit in talking about. Some people like to talk about things to make them feel better, I don't.



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Report this post | 25 Aug 2009 15:27 GMT | #1638672 |   | Split
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I hate depression. Not actually having it, but the way it's paraded around more like a badge of honour than a genuine affliction by misguided teens trying to make the scene. It belittles the people that are actually suffering, and it's embarrassing for all concerned.

In terms of the actual affliction, it's not something I would see any benefit in talking about. Some people like to talk about things to make them feel better, I don't.



Who said it's actually paraded around? Some people feel better talking about their depression, some people feel it's the best therapy for them, rather than being doped on medication half of the times.


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Report this post | 25 Aug 2009 15:30 GMT | #1638673 |   | Split
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I hate depression. Not actually having it, but the way it's paraded around more like a badge of honour than a genuine affliction by misguided teens trying to make the scene. It belittles the people that are actually suffering, and it's embarrassing for all concerned.

In terms of the actual affliction, it's not something I would see any benefit in talking about. Some people like to talk about things to make them feel better, I don't.



Who said it's actually paraded around? Some people feel better talking about their depression, some people feel it's the best therapy for them, rather than being doped on medication half of the times.



Facepalm. Read it again.

I'm not saying everyone parades it around. I'm saying that it's quite common for silly alt. teens to claim they're suffering from depression, when really it just goes well with their eyeliner.



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Report this post | 25 Aug 2009 15:39 GMT | #1638682 |   | Split
^^ and big black hair styles.
But I understand the whole emo side of things. They just want to be different and brooding and to show the opposite gender they have a 'sensitive' side. When actually depression isn't really sensitivity, most of the time when I get a bout of it, I have no idea why. well, mine isn't really depression, I suffer yearly from Seasonal Affective Disorder during the winter. And as such, I tend to resort to escapism by sleeping all the time. I suppose its my animal instinct though, trying to hibernate...


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Report this post | 25 Aug 2009 15:48 GMT | #1638691 |   | Split
Indeed. Trying to fit in with a group is all well and good if that's your bag. But taking something that is a cause of genuine suffering for other people and then claiming you have it is disrespectful and annoying.

Using afflictions as credentials. That's what I hate. I hate people who claim to have dyslexia when really they're just stupid. I hate people who claim to be driven to self harm when really they just like to compare scars on a Friday night. I hate people who pretend they're drug addicts when really they had a draw off a joint. I hate any attempt at gaining attention using something that is a source of misery for others.

If someone you knew claimed to have cancer when they didn't I'm sure you'd think less of them. Claiming to have a psychological problem when you don't isn't much better - it's just easier to get away with.



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Report this post | 28 Aug 2009 18:42 GMT | #1644848 |   | Split
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If someone you knew claimed to have cancer when they didn't I'm sure you'd think less of them. Claiming to have a psychological problem when you don't isn't much better - it's just easier to get away with.



ive never understood why anyone would want to pretend to be depressed. its horrible and having seen people destroyed by it i cant imagine why anyone in their right mind would pretend to have it.


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If someone you knew claimed to have cancer when they didn't I'm sure you'd think less of them. Claiming to have a psychological problem when you don't isn't much better - it's just easier to get away with.



ive never understood why anyone would want to pretend to be depressed. its horrible and having seen people destroyed by it i cant imagine why anyone in their right mind would pretend to have it.



I agree with you. It's unfathomable how depression seems to be seen as a fashion trend nowadays... People who think that don't really know anything about it at all. That's the only explanation I can find. It's sad because this silly trend makes fun of the people who are truly suffering.


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Report this post | 29 Aug 2009 01:10 GMT | #1645392 |   | Split
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Indeed. Trying to fit in with a group is all well and good if that's your bag. But taking something that is a cause of genuine suffering for other people and then claiming you have it is disrespectful and annoying.

Using afflictions as credentials. That's what I hate. I hate people who claim to have dyslexia when really they're just stupid. I hate people who claim to be driven to self harm when really they just like to compare scars on a Friday night. I hate people who pretend they're drug addicts when really they had a draw off a joint. I hate any attempt at gaining attention using something that is a source of misery for others.

If someone you knew claimed to have cancer when they didn't I'm sure you'd think less of them. Claiming to have a psychological problem when you don't isn't much better - it's just easier to get away with.



This.

Another problem I have is that a lot of people, especially teenagers, claim to be depressed. NO! Depression is a serious illness. Most of the time, it's just sadness. Depression has nothing to do with your hormones being a little fucked up because that girl didn't like you. It just really gets to me when people say "I'm so depressed" you're unhappy dear, there's a difference.

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Report this post | 31 Aug 2009 01:08 GMT | #1648601 |   | Split
Hi, I've been following this thread and let me tell you that you have my support. *hugs*

I think the worst thing about depression is that the people around you don't know how to handle it. You feel bad, they feel bad. And many times you have to hide it because it makes your friends or family uncomfortable.
It's easy when it's a small episode; you can shove it and try to not to think about it. The problem is with the big episodes; you don't know what's going on, it's scary and your family really can't do much.
I remember one time, when I was eleven and I had a mayor depression episode (it lasted for about ten months). In my religion, depression can be considered like a form of sin; if it paralyzes you, it can lead to sloth. Sloth is a terrible sin. I don't believe in that, but my mom does, so she sent me to a priest.
It made me feel well for a couple of hours, mostly because this person was actually listening to me, instead of trying to condemn me, but it's nothing compared to a couple of sessions with a therapist.


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Report this post | 31 Aug 2009 12:37 GMT | #1649341 |   | Split
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I think the worst thing about depression is that the people around you don't know how to handle it. You feel bad, they feel bad. And many times you have to hide it because it makes your friends or family uncomfortable.
It's easy when it's a small episode; you can shove it and try to not to think about it. The problem is with the big episodes; you don't know what's going on, it's scary and your family really can't do much.



That is exactly how i feel. I know i'm depressed (I've been suffering from it for the past 8 months, having suffered from it before in 2006. It took me 18 months to feel fully recovered from my depression in 2006, and now i'm not 100% sure that i ever did fully recover.)

I'm trying to hide my depression from everyone i know, so that they don't feel uncomfortable, bad or that they have to try to make me feel better every minute of every day. Once someone knows you're suffering from depression they begin to look at you in a different way, and you can see it in their eyes. The pity and the worry, and sometimes the frustration. So it's better just to hide it rather that confront it.

I know i should confide in someone otherwise it's going to get worse (which i think is partly why i'm on here) but the last time i told someone how i felt they told me i was being silly and then never spoke to me again. Therefore, hiding my depression from those around me is the best thing i can do, but it's so draining, everyday i'm living a lie that i'm happy and coping with life, and putting on a front for those around me. I worry that at times the front slips and people are able to see how i truly feel, and that scares me. It scares me more than the putting on a front drains me, that's why i do it everyday.


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Report this post | 31 Aug 2009 12:44 GMT | #1649356 |   | Split
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Depression has nothing to do with your hormones being a little fucked up because that girl didn't like you. It just really gets to me when people say "I'm so depressed" you're unhappy dear, there's a difference.


...and it's comments like this that make me scared to ever talk about my "unhappiness", because I know I'm getting judged. Sometimes teenagers can genuinely be depressed, and sometimes people don't believe that. I don't think my parents ever did, and I don't think they ever will.
At least I'm past all of it now. It's just crazy mood swings for me nowadays


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Once someone knows you're suffering from depression they begin to look at you in a different way, and you can see it in their eyes. The pity and the worry, and sometimes the frustration. So it's better just to hide it rather that confront it.




Oh, yes. That happens. After that serious depression, my family started looking at me like a stranger and also started acting like walking on pins. Maybe because they didn't want a negative reaction from me. It seemed like that episode freaked them out too, and since then, I can't seem to recover that relationship I had with them, which it makes this whole thing about hiding your feelings a must. It also happened with my friends at that time; our relationship crashed at the worst part, and even I recovered them a short time later, the confidence issues arrived and we finally split apart.
But now I have new friends, and I'm very happy with them. And also I've been trying to control my depressions by just understanding that this is the way my body is going to react to certain situations.


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Report this post | 02 Sep 2009 04:45 GMT | #1654100 |   | Split
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Once someone knows you're suffering from depression they begin to look at you in a different way, and you can see it in their eyes. The pity and the worry, and sometimes the frustration. So it's better just to hide it rather that confront it.




Oh, yes. That happens. After that serious depression, my family started looking at me like a stranger and also started acting like walking on pins. Maybe because they didn't want a negative reaction from me. It seemed like that episode freaked them out too, and since then, I can't seem to recover that relationship I had with them, which it makes this whole thing about hiding your feelings a must. It also happened with my friends at that time; our relationship crashed at the worst part, and even I recovered them a short time later, the confidence issues arrived and we finally split apart.
But now I have new friends, and I'm very happy with them. And also I've been trying to control my depressions by just understanding that this is the way my body is going to react to certain situations.


I'm afraid that this isn't true. Not everyone will change they way they look at you if they know. Or maybe they'll change in a way that's more understanding, as opposed to a negative way. Sure, some people will push you away, but others will respond in a more positive way. It depends on the person.

Of course you should pick and choose who you tell, but it's definitely not better to hide it than confront it. Confronting it can give you an active means to recover, as opposed to passively.


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Report this post | 02 Sep 2009 04:57 GMT | #1654117 |   | Split
I wish people would understand that Depression is an illness just like flu is.

Why is it that people find it easy to believe that you body is not well, but somehow have trouble believing that you mind can also be unwell?


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Report this post | 02 Sep 2009 07:11 GMT | #1654170 |   | Split
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Indeed. Trying to fit in with a group is all well and good if that's your bag. But taking something that is a cause of genuine suffering for other people and then claiming you have it is disrespectful and annoying.

Using afflictions as credentials. That's what I hate. I hate people who claim to have dyslexia when really they're just stupid. I hate people who claim to be driven to self harm when really they just like to compare scars on a Friday night. I hate people who pretend they're drug addicts when really they had a draw off a joint. I hate any attempt at gaining attention using something that is a source of misery for others.

If someone you knew claimed to have cancer when they didn't I'm sure you'd think less of them. Claiming to have a psychological problem when you don't isn't much better - it's just easier to get away with.



Gotta say, I like this guys thoughts at times.

Depression is a legit and real affliction for some. I think it can be genetic (or at the least the predisposition toward it) and it can be due to environment.

To claim to be "depressed" just to get attention or cred is the height of idiocy.

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Report this post | 12 Sep 2009 11:25 GMT | #1693992 |   | Split
i'm really struggling with this today and it's scaring me and making me feeling so confused... and i don't know why i'm posting this... i spose so i can just let someone know how i feel


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i'm really struggling with this today and it's scaring me and making me feeling so confused... and i don't know why i'm posting this... i spose so i can just let someone know how i feel



talk it out. Whether its in here or a journal or to someone face to face or something.


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I wish people would understand that Depression is an illness just like flu is.

Why is it that people find it easy to believe that you body is not well, but somehow have trouble believing that you mind can also be unwell?



That is a question I would like the answer too.


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I wish people would understand that Depression is an illness just like flu is.

Why is it that people find it easy to believe that you body is not well, but somehow have trouble believing that you mind can also be unwell?



That is a question I would like the answer too.



Because, unfortunately, there is not enough education or information about it. It's something that is still neglected in much the same way as it was when medical and institutional psychology first began to differentiate between "something's wrong with them in their mind, to the asylum!"

Unfortunately these attitudes still largely stick, and often in a way that means people are simply not aware about the intricacies of mental health issues- even if on the surface apparantly we're more open about these things now. If issues such as depression, anxiety, and other common disorders were talked about more in schools perhaps people would understand more


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Report this post | 27 Sep 2009 00:05 GMT | #1717054 |   | Split
I think the problem these days is that the term depression has been thrown around so much that its become to vague. I'm sure that no one reading this would have a bad word to say to someone who is genuinally depressed - it just feels like lots of people are against those that say they are depressed because as others have said, there are so many people that say it for the effect and as a result, the importance of the word has become diluted.
I'm sure that again, as others have said, there are people that will state that they are depressed purely for the attention, but I also feel that some people who say they are but aren't actually think they are so I find it hard to get angry at them.

Part of the problem is that with out consulting someone, as far as I kno, theres no real way to tell if your depressed or just unhappy. If I take now for example, I won't pretend that i'm the happyist bunny in the world. However, there'll always be that bit of me that reminds the rest of me that in a day or so, things will be much better. If i'm ever feeling really unhappy, I usually think about all those that are less fortunate than me that would die for the lifestyle that I have and I always snap out of it quickly, even if I do feel a bit guilty.

Sure, i've had dark times in my life - everyone has. I really have a problem with going as far as saying I was depressed; I was meerly not as happy as I usually am - theres a difference.


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Report this post | 27 Sep 2009 00:22 GMT | #1717065 |   | Split
That is exactly what I've been trying to say Ben.

Sometimes people will say they're depressed, because they think they are, but they are using the term out of context. Depression is a diagnosis of a mental illness. Most people do not have this.

That's not to say there's nothing wrong with feeling down, I just dislike people using the wrong words in the wrong context. I've been through some very rough times in the past few years, but never once would I claim to be depressed. Just having a real shit buzz.

This ties in with the whole people using the word "hate" out of context as well. You don't hate them, you just dislike them. Ugh.


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Report this post | 27 Sep 2009 11:05 GMT | #1717343 |   | Split
People being sad and saying they're depressed was as annoying as when people got a cold and said they had swine flu.

I'm sure one of my school... 'friends' was hit in the testes with a football, then told us he was getting checked for testicular cancer.

He never did. I hope he gets swine flu.





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